Why is this?
5/27/13, 06:04 PM
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you dont have a dsg...
hydraulic autos (like yours) have a lot higher parasitic loss. somewhere around 3 times more than a manual if i recall correctly.
manuals get the advantage of clutch dumping and you can shift super fast if you know what your doing.
stock for stock mustang of the same year manual will win. just sayin..
5/27/13, 06:05 PM
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you dont have a dsg...
hydraulic autos (like yours) have a lot higher parasitic loss. somewhere around 3 times more than a manual if i recall correctly.
manuals get the advantage of clutch dumping and you can shift super fast if you know what your doing.
stock for stock mustang of the same year manual will win. just sayin..
5/27/13, 06:07 PM
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Yes, Vettes usually have a higher top end speed than Mustangs that doesn't mean they're always quicker. I've seen mustangs beat plenty of "fast" vettes. It's the same reason Camaro guys hate 'stangs because on paper their car should be able to easily win.
5/27/13, 06:10 PM
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Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. Did Peter Piper pick a peck of pickled peppers? If Peter Piper Picked a peck of pickled peppers, Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?
Bleh this thread got to busy with people selectively taking sections from my posts. Confused me like a tongue twister on who said what.
Bleh this thread got to busy with people selectively taking sections from my posts. Confused me like a tongue twister on who said what.
5/27/13, 06:10 PM
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2 when we made that comment about sticks being faster we were referring to mustangs (since this is a mustang forum and in a general mustang chat thread)
3 pretty sure no one in this thread owns a super car so they are out of the question.
5/27/13, 06:13 PM
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1 this is a mustang forum...
2 when we made that comment about sticks being faster we were referring to mustangs (since this is a mustang forum and in a general mustang chat thread)
3 pretty sure no one in this thread owns a super car so they are out of the question.
2 when we made that comment about sticks being faster we were referring to mustangs (since this is a mustang forum and in a general mustang chat thread)
3 pretty sure no one in this thread owns a super car so they are out of the question.
Did Peter Piper pick a peck of pickled peppers?
If Peter Piper Picked a peck of pickled peppers,
Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?
So how many did he pick?
5/27/13, 06:15 PM
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I'm not talking about a 100% stock auto. I know stock for stock most autos can't bet their manual counterparts. Though there are a few exceptions like with the vw GTi where the auto is faster than the manual. Also I'm not talking about my car I'm talking about cars in general. I never took my car to the track and if you look back at my post I did put a ? So I was asking a question not stating a fact.
5/27/13, 06:20 PM
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Kinda got confused to be honest. Not from what you said just all the posts so I'm going to chalk this up as a me being at a loss. Ill have to do some research on this on my own. Anybody have any good links?
5/27/13, 06:31 PM
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Yes but the sn95 produced all of what 20lbs less than the 05? Still I don't see how 40hp and 20 torque can throw off a 400lbs weight advantage. This is what confuses me. Is it the better tranmission? Rear suspension? Or is it the power band? Also to add a come back...awe look at the small underpowered 4.6 DOHC cobra. DOHC and only making 300hp stock awe so sad. :P take that :P I admit that wasnt as good if a comeback as I could have done. XD
So think about things again...
2nd, they advertised 300hp was often higher (they didn't want to understate hp).
Trannys are also better (at least IMO).
5/27/13, 06:33 PM
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Like I said earlier, faster on paper. Go to the track, make a few runs, then you'll know what your car can actually do with you as a driver. Just remember, faster on paper is just that, paper. And newer being faster is frequently(not always)proven wrong.
5/27/13, 06:44 PM
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5/27/13, 07:00 PM
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I doubt a bone stock 05 gt has ever dipped into the 12's I'd like to see that. I even looked up what people actually did in faith cars. The 05's were a 13 second car the 11's are a 12 second car based on the numbers I got from researching it.
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5/27/13, 07:12 PM
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I was a little confused as to which model you were talking since I was talking about the 13's 05's and new edges. I know I know I'm easy to confuse. Anyway was the 05's a mid to 13 second and the new edge a 14 flat to mid 14 car? 5 tenths to a second faster.... Hhmmm well guess 40hp can offset a 200-400lbs advantage.
5/27/13, 07:27 PM
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Correct "on paper" the '05 is mid 13's and the New Edge is 14, that's not a full second and in the real world it's different story. Do you understand what I mean by "on paper"?
5/27/13, 07:36 PM
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Ah now I get it XD I'm more of a paper person. :P but yes I do just get carried away sometimes.
5/27/13, 08:59 PM
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Yes but the sn95 produced all of what 20lbs less than the 05? Still I don't see how 40hp and 20 torque can throw off a 400lbs weight advantage. This is what confuses me. Is it the better tranmission? Rear suspension? Or is it the power band? Also to add a come back...awe look at the small underpowered 4.6 DOHC cobra. DOHC and only making 300hp stock awe so sad. :P take that :P I admit that wasnt as good if a comeback as I could have done. XD
5/27/13, 10:14 PM
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Not sure where you got the figure of 3200 lbs for the SN-95 Mustang, but the numbers I've seen put them more in the 3400-3500 lb range for a V8 GT coupe model.