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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Why is this?

Ok we all know why the 2011+ GT's are faster than the 05-09 GT's, but why are the 05's faster than the 99-04 GT's. I know they make 40 more hp but the new edge weighs 3200 where as the 05's weigh in at 3600. Shouldn't this weight difference change the whole game?
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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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Meh. Gt's.....

Weight does play a difference. So does torque
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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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Meh. Gt's.....

Weight does play a difference. So does torque
Yes but the sn95 produced all of what 20lbs less than the 05? Still I don't see how 40hp and 20 torque can throw off a 400lbs weight advantage. This is what confuses me. Is it the better tranmission? Rear suspension? Or is it the power band? Also to add a come back...awe look at the small underpowered 4.6 DOHC cobra. DOHC and only making 300hp stock awe so sad. :P take that :P I admit that wasnt as good if a comeback as I could have done. XD

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Old May 26, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lexi2013
Yes but the sn95 produced all of what 20lbs less than the 05? Still I don't see how 40hp and 20 torque can throw off a 400lbs weight advantage. This is what confuses me. Is it the better tranmission? Rear suspension? Or is it the power band? Also to add a come back...awe look at the small underpowered 4.6 DOHC cobra. DOHC and only making 300hp stock awe so sad. :P take that :P I admit that wasnt as good if a comeback as I could have done. XD
Variable valve timing is one advantage the 3v GTs have, peak values in torque and horsepower only tell a small part of the story. Another advantage is the 3 valve layout, those two combined gave the 3v engines better low to mid range power which translates into better average power (or power under the curve if you prefer).

And while I can't remember if I checked, there may have been some gearing advantage as well with the transmission and final drive.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:15 AM
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Moving to 'General Mustang Chat' section, but will leave a link for today . . .
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Old May 27, 2013 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by lexi2013
Ok we all know why the 2011+ GT's are faster than the 05-09 GT's, but why are the 05's faster than the 99-04 GT's. I know they make 40 more hp but the new edge weighs 3200 where as the 05's weigh in at 3600. Shouldn't this weight difference change the whole game?
S196s have a redesigned chassis which transfers weight better which translates to better holeshots. And your 5.0 is only faster if you can drive I've buried many a coyote at the track with my wimpy old 3v.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by muscledom

S196s have a redesigned chassis which transfers weight better which translates to better holeshots. And your 5.0 is only faster if you can drive I've buried many a coyote at the track with my wimpy old 3v.
Ive kept up with several in my ol 4.6 4v
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Old May 27, 2013 | 08:14 AM
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Many factors in determining the cars speed. Most people think it is HP. HP helps but torque is what gets you there. Torque range is more important than the Hp curve. Transmission and gearing also matter. Tires matter also. Of course the number one factor is the driver.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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Faster on paper, a driver can be a huge factor especially when there's only tenths of a second between the two cars.

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Old May 27, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by muscledom

S196s have a redesigned chassis which transfers weight better which translates to better holeshots. And your 5.0 is only faster if you can drive I've buried many a coyote at the track with my wimpy old 3v.
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Ive kept up with several in my ol 4.6 4v
U fortunately for you guys I can drive and it's a auto 6 speed so all I really have to do is stomp on it and then bye bye.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lexi2013

U fortunately for you guys I can drive and it's a auto 6 speed so all I really have to do is stomp on it and then bye bye.
I can drive too
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Old May 27, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking

I can drive too
Then I guess it's a race between the machines and I have 100 more hp and torque. :P
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Old May 27, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lexi2013

Then I guess it's a race between the machines and I have 100 more hp and torque. :P
What's your best 1/4 mile time?
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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lexi2013

Then I guess it's a race between the machines and I have 100 more hp and torque. :P
And alot more weight
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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
And alot more weight
Are you calling her fat?




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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown

Are you calling her fat?

Im just sayin me and my car weigh substantialy less than her and her car
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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri

What's your best 1/4 mile time?
Originally Posted by texastboneking

Im just sayin me and my car weigh substantialy less than her and her car
Weight lol I weigh less then you don't all me fat! Regardless though of car weight mine is still faster. Though Iam comparing a 2013 to something that came out in 1997. The only car that can really give me a run for my money is a Shelby or a termi and any FI GT stang. XD that's a big list though I'm sure with all bolt ons the older mach1 and cobras would also give me a run for my money.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lexi2013

Weight lol I weigh less then you don't all me fat! Regardless though of car weight mine is still faster. Though Iam comparing a 2013 to something that came out in 1997. The only car that can really give me a run for my money is a Shelby or a termi and any FI GT stang. XD that's a big list though I'm sure with all bolt ons the older mach1 and cobras would also give me a run for my money.
Who said I didn't have bolt ons?

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Old May 27, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking

Who said I didn't have bolt ons?
Who said I didn't? :P if I had full bolt ons you'd need FI to beat me. :P good for you I'm still stock. In a few weeks though I should order something.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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Who said I didn't? :P if I had full bolt ons you'd need FI to beat me. :P good for you I'm still stock. In a few weeks though I should order something.
You underestimate the ol 4v powa
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