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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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My 2011 V6, 305 hp will do all that and for about 7 grand less. My 11 v6 will do 140 mph. I got rid of the speed governor limit with my bama tune. The chicks dig the 11 stang even the sixer. Plus I get 5 to 6 mpg more on highway than the 2010 V8. Poke
Fine. Ill raise it to 160. You can't do that yet my 15 year old Stang can
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Yeah, might want to reconsider testing that 140 claim until you make some modifications.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qWhxYElSW0
Yeah, I saw that video. That's the only one I have heard of. Is that a fact the failure was because of the speed or was there other factors. What exactly broke on the car. Was it the sway bar?

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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking

Fine. Ill raise it to 160. You can't do that yet my 15 year old Stang can
Okay, you got me. I can't do 160 in my 2011 sixer. Lol
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Yeah, I saw that video. That's the only one I have heard of. Is that a fact the failure was because of the speed or was there other factors. What exactly broke on the car. Was it the sway bar?
driveshaft broke. They're not designed for speeds that high.

The v6's are nice, but they're just not a V8. It's apples and oranges.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by StangMahn

driveshaft broke. They're not designed for speeds that high.

The v6's are nice, but they're just not a V8. It's apples and oranges.
True, the V6 is not really designed to drive at high speeds of 140 plus. I guess with a few after market changes I guess one could buy a drive shaft that can with hold up to 140 mph. So with that top speed the V8 definitely has it over the V6. Im not really interested in going 160 mph so the 305 hp v6 is good enough for my thrills. I prefer the 1/4 mile, 0 to 60 speed of vehicles not top end. I don't think apples to oranges. Lol

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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by StangMahn

driveshaft broke. They're not designed for speeds that high.

The v6's are nice, but they're just not a V8. It's apples and oranges.
Does anybody know the actual real reason the driveshaft broke like that at 135 mph? I have been told that the 2011 v6's driveshaft are not designed to handle such speeds which was why Ford put a speed limiter of around 118 or so.

Others say that's bull about the weaker driveshafts. Others claim it was a freak accident that occurs in very minimal v6 stangs and the driveshafts are built to withstand that high speed.

Which is it?
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 10:29 PM
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probably not balanced to the specifications required for it to spin that fast. Think of a centrifuge that's not balanced on both sides, it'll rip itself apart in a hurry.

also possible that the welds arent strong enough or that the u joints can't handle the stress

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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by StangMahn
probably not balanced to the specifications required for it to spin that fast. Think of a centrifuge that's not balanced on both sides, it'll rip itself apart in a hurry.

also possible that the welds arent strong enough or that the u joints can't handle the stress
I wonder why Ford would make a sports vehicle with 305 hp and not allow it to spin fast enough to handle that kind of speed. I have a 2011 v6 and wonder why Ford advertises the speed of 160 mph in my v6 when the driveshaft is not equipped to handle it to spin fast enough. Heck Ford doesn't even warn its customers about this yet they advertise a much higher speed on the cars factory stock speed odometer. I had no clue my car would not run 140 safely until I started reading these mustang forums.

If my 2011 v6 can't go that fast then I sure wish Ford wouldn't advertise it will go 160 on the speed odometer. Just give the v6 speed odometer what ever the speed governor is set too. By Ford advertising such speed it gives people a sense of false security about the vehicle. One thinks they can go 135 because the speed odometer reads higher. Why would the average consumer think different of there 305 hp sports car. Especially when there soccer mom mini van can rock a buck 15 no problem.

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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
I wonder why Ford would make a sports vehicle with 305 hp and not allow it to spin fast enough to handle that kind of speed. I have a 2011 v6 and wonder why Ford advertises the speed of 160 mph in my v6 when the driveshaft is not equipped to handle it to spin fast enough. Heck Ford doesn't even warn its customers about this yet they advertise a much higher speed on the cars factory stock speed odometer. I had no clue my car would not run 140 safely until I started reading these mustang forums.

If my 2011 v6 can't go that fast then I sure wish Ford wouldn't advertise it will go 160 on the speed odometer. Just give the v6 speed odometer what ever the speed governor is set too. By Ford advertising such speed it gives people a sense of false security about the vehicle. One thinks they can go 135 because the speed odometer reads higher. Why would the average consumer think different of there 305 hp sports car. Especially when there soccer mom mini van can rock a buck 15 no problem.

lets be honest here, of the thousands of V6's that Ford will sell, there may be 5 that try to go 130+. There's no definite that the D/S will snap at 117.3 or something like that, just that they're not rated for 150/160/170+, much like tires are rated. Sure they can probably hold up to faster speeds, but do you really wanna push it? Also, just because the speedo says 160 doesnt mean they ever intended for it to do 160.

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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StangMahn

lets be honest here, of the thousands of V6's that Ford will sell, there may be 5 that try to go 130+. There's no definite that the D/S will snap at 117.3 or something like that, just that they're not rated for 150/160/170+, much like tires are rated. Sure they can probably hold up to faster speeds, but do you really wanna push it? Also, just because the speedo says 160 doesnt mean they ever intended for it to do 160.
Agree its not 100 % the driveshaft will fail, however I expect that if ford is advertising a factory stock speed odometer that reads 160 then my 305 hp sports car should do that. If not, that's okay but advertise the correct top speed. If the top speed on the v6 is 115, fine have a speed odometer that reads 115. When Ford advertises 160 it gives people a false sense of what they think the car can do when in fact it can't come close.

This way you don't have people blowing up their cars because Ford used cheap marketing and advertising tricks to make the consumer think there vehicle can go 135 no problem.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Agree its not 100 % the driveshaft will fail, however I expect that if ford is advertising a factory stock speed odometer that reads 160 then my 305 hp sports car should do that. If not, that's okay but advertise the correct top speed. If the top speed on the v6 is 115, fine have a speed odometer that reads 115. When Ford advertises 160 it gives people a false sense of what they think the car can do when in fact it can't come close.

This way you don't have people blowing up their cars because Ford used cheap marketing and advertising tricks to make the consumer think there vehicle can go 135 no problem.
Anybody that thinks the highest number on the gauge is how fast a car will go is a moron. My ol' lady's Accord registers a 160 and it wouldn't do 160 if it was being pulled by a Veyron.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue

I wonder why Ford would make a sports vehicle with 305 hp and not allow it to spin fast enough to handle that kind of speed. I have a 2011 v6 and wonder why Ford advertises the speed of 160 mph in my v6 when the driveshaft is not equipped to handle it to spin fast enough. Heck Ford doesn't even warn its customers about this yet they advertise a much higher speed on the cars factory stock speed odometer.
You are totally missing the point of what the v6 was designed for.... it isn't designed to be a hot rod. That same engine is in many different platforms. So even the edge can have the power you have. It was designed to be a daily driver with the "looks" of a sports car. Your driving a mustang with a fusion engine. Not trying to be rude but you need to look at what the car was designed for..
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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no no.. im sure saleen is also lying

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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown

Anybody that thinks the highest number on the gauge is how fast a car will go is a moron. My ol' lady's Accord registers a 160 and it wouldn't do 160 if it was being pulled by a Veyron.
Then why have it read 160. Besides its an accord, no offense . Im talking about a 305 hp sports car.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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My dads focus says 140mph. Does that make it a sports car?
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Then why have it read 160. Besides its an accord, no offense . Im talking about a 305 hp sports car.
Because making a separate gauge cluster just for the V-6 would just add cost across the line-up.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
You are totally missing the point of what the v6 was designed for.... it isn't designed to be a hot rod. That same engine is in many different platforms. So even the edge can have the power you have. It was designed to be a daily driver with the "looks" of a sports car. Your driving a mustang with a fusion engine. Not trying to be rude but you need to look at what the car was designed for..
Okay then, That's not how Ford is advertising and marketing the vehicle. There not marketing the vehicle as a fusion. There marketing the vehicle as a 305 hp sports car that does 0-60 in around 5.5 seconds. This v6 stang is as fast on the low end as previous year Gt's.

I have no issue with the car being what it is. But the v6 2011 is no Fusion or Edge. Its sheer awesome of a vehicle for the price and power you get. Im just saying I think its a little cheap marketing and advertising trick to get consumers in thinking there car is more than what it is.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown

Because making a separate gauge cluster just for the V-6 would just add cost across the line-up.
Ah, come on bro. It couldn't cost that much to have a guage that read 115 on the v6.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:45 PM
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Then why have it read 160. Besides its an accord, no offense . Im talking about a 305 hp sports car.
the new accord make about 260hp.. also what the heck??? you act like it doesnt matter because its a honda. But you act out outraged because the car you bought has the same senario
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang

the new accord make about 260hp.. also what the heck??? you act like it doesnt matter because its a honda. But you act out outraged because the car you bought has the same senario
Accords are great cars. There not a stang. No disrespect, it's just a different kind of car.
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