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:gay: Bill called it right!

TacoBill

Looks interesting, but I like my interior as 'black' as possible.

Nice find though.

89Trooper

I don't think it would work too good on mine, either.

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LEO_06GT

Hmmm...I guess that Daryl maybe the only one that can use the new mod.
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Gears of War review

I played the game for about two hours last night after picking it up at the local gamestop at 10pm. So far I'm impressed with the games graphics as well as gameplay. The controls are pretty simple and only take a few minutes to learn. Some people will say it's pretty much Halo with better graphics and different characters but, I think the gameplay is way different as you can't just run and gun your way through the game like you can in Halo. I don't know why it's rated mature as I don't see very much gore even though there is some minor cursing. The game also offers a co-op mode on/offline which I've yet to try. Although I'm sure going online or just co-op with a friend will only add to the fun. I'm sure this game will be number one for all the online gamers even if only untill the release of Halo3 next year.

TacoBill

Do you have the 360?

LEO_06GT

Duh! Yes I do I got it last year while out in Iraq. Can you believe that they actually reserved several hundred units for the bases that have stores out there? This was during the launch of the 360 not months later.

89Trooper

CAUTION! CAUTION! THE Z-10 IS GOING IN THE TRASH.

I started conditioning my driver's seat today and it was turning my white towel red. I used it before without any problems, but now it's taking out the dye. It says it won't do that, but it did!

I tried the Z-16 on the passenger seat and it took out no dye at all, so I used that on everything. It says it's good for vinyl (most of the front seats and all of the rear seats are vinyl). Plus it has sun protection like the Z-10. The seats look great - a lot of dirt came out from being exposed to dust with the top down.

Just be careful when using the Z-10, but it may just be a red dye thing. I might give the bottle to a guy at work. He has an Infinity and ALL the front seats and ALL the back seats are leather.

I called Zaino to tell them about the problem and to ask about the Z-16 on the seats. They are out all day at a car show, but I pressed "1" to forward a message to their cell phone. I'll post what I find out.

TacoBill

It's the very, very, very least thing Microsoft can do for Armed Forces deployed over there.

If you're on Live, maybe Chris will have a match with you (if you both have the same game). Let me warn you.. he's pretty good!



What???!!! Now you tell me!

Red dye, black dye, what's the difference? Anything that's not the natural color of leather is dyed.

Crap. Good thing I ordered more Z-16. I won't even try the Z-10 until I hear what Sal tells you.

89Trooper

I was just as surprised - lucky it doesn't really change the color if some of the dye comes off. I'll pass on any info ASAP.

Maybe the leather gets softer in the sun and allows the dye to come off. I have no idea...

I hope they say the Z-16 is okay for continued use - the seats have never looked so good. Now they have a nice deep, rich luster to them:

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The white spot on the driver's seat is where the dye came off. Just kidding - that's just a glare.

TacoBill

I already used the Z-16 on my entire back seating area as well as the rear section of the front seats. I did this a few months back. The only thing on my rag was just some dust/dirt, very minor. No black dye of any kind transferred off.

Front seating surfaces have nothing on them.

I also use the Z-16 on all the interior plastic trim pieces, top dash pad, door panels and speaker grilles, and center arm rest assembly. All looks good.

89Trooper

Yep, nothing came off but dust/dirt when I used the Z-16 (except a little more red when I went over the area that I used the Z-10 on - that's how much it softened up the dye).

TacoBill

Too wierd...

I wonder if the Z-10 is alkaline free or ph balanced? We need a MSDS to find the pH value (neutral is 7.0 right?). A high balance could be the cause of removing the dye.

89Trooper

Got me... it says on the bottle that it's safe for all leathers. I guess not red, though.

LEO_06GT

Tom- Don't worry when I used some of Meguiars leather conditioner on my car the same thing happened to me. I remember this happening with my vert as well so I think it's normal and nothing to worry about. Sorry I took so long to chime in but I'm hooked on Gears of War.

Bill- Buy chris Gears of War/Halo2/Madden and I'll be more than happy to dual with him. Although I'm sure he'll kick my butt. My 13 year old cousin always gets the best of me when I play him on Halo 2

Boltzman

i thought you were Mr. Grammar??

OKCMustangGT

I have used Z-9 & Z-10 on my seats and nothing ever came off. I use the Z-16 on the rest of the interior though.

I got a 360 on launch day last year for $399 then sold it on ebay for over $800. Then I bought another, so I basically got it for free. (There is some of Tom's Financial Reasoning )

Leo what is your gamertag ??
OKCToolguy here.
I used to play Halo2 all the time but haven't been playing it lately. We need to get Tom & Bill online and kick their ***

89Trooper

Sometimes I have to keep the reading at a 5th grade level so everybody can understand.

89Trooper

Still wonder if it's the red dye?

I have a Playstation 2... no Xbox.

Good job on the free 360!

TacoBill

Ouch! I feel insulted. I'm at least at the 6th Grade Level, buddy!



It took me forever to find a 360 in stock for Chris, but I did it!

Chris' gamertag is OGS WaRrIoR, but he's only playing COD2 lately... until COD3 comes out.



Must be excessive dye in your leather.

PS2? That's so yesterday!

89Trooper

Ouch! I feel insulted. I'm at least at the 6th Grade Level, buddy!
That was for Leo. You know those Marines.

Must be excessive dye in your leather.
Could be...

PS2? That's so yesterday!
I'm not paying $600 for a PS3... I'll wait awhile.