Multiple crashes at Mustang Week
7/23/14, 08:14 AM
#23
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7/23/14, 04:08 PM
#24
I've been going to F-body events for years and there is very little of this kind of stuff. Usually, if it's a large event, there are GM employees on hand that emphasize that everyone knows what these cars can do and doing burnouts, drag racing and driving stupid isn't necessary and everyone is asked not to "show off" and to take it to the track! There are always the revving of the engines and the quick acceleration when people leave the event, but I have never seen anything like this at an F-body event. I also did a youtube search for "camaro fail" and I found nothing close to the amount of "mustang fail".
Many years ago, two 4th gen cars decided to drag race outside the host hotel after midnight. There weren't any side of the road spectators to show off for, but they wanted to see whose car was faster. One car lost control, hit the curb and flipped into a concrete wall killing the two people in the back seat. The car hit the wall 8 feet up. The driver was jailed, obviously. Since then, nothing even close to this, that I have heard of. I couldn't imagine the outcome if people were standing on the side of the road when the car flipped!
Many years ago, two 4th gen cars decided to drag race outside the host hotel after midnight. There weren't any side of the road spectators to show off for, but they wanted to see whose car was faster. One car lost control, hit the curb and flipped into a concrete wall killing the two people in the back seat. The car hit the wall 8 feet up. The driver was jailed, obviously. Since then, nothing even close to this, that I have heard of. I couldn't imagine the outcome if people were standing on the side of the road when the car flipped!
Last edited by scottmoyer; 7/23/14 at 04:15 PM.
7/23/14, 07:34 PM
#26
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I've been going to F-body events for years and there is very little of this kind of stuff. Usually, if it's a large event, there are GM employees on hand that emphasize that everyone knows what these cars can do and doing burnouts, drag racing and driving stupid isn't necessary and everyone is asked not to "show off" and to take it to the track! There are always the revving of the engines and the quick acceleration when people leave the event, but I have never seen anything like this at an F-body event. I also did a youtube search for "camaro fail" and I found nothing close to the amount of "mustang fail". Many years ago, two 4th gen cars decided to drag race outside the host hotel after midnight. There weren't any side of the road spectators to show off for, but they wanted to see whose car was faster. One car lost control, hit the curb and flipped into a concrete wall killing the two people in the back seat. The car hit the wall 8 feet up. The driver was jailed, obviously. Since then, nothing even close to this, that I have heard of. I couldn't imagine the outcome if people were standing on the side of the road when the car flipped!
made me do it. 
7/23/14, 11:22 PM
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7/23/14, 11:51 PM
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30k for a brz? Are you kidding me?
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7/24/14, 12:49 PM
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1987 GT - 300
1987 IROC-Z - 340
1992 GT - 275
1992 Z28 - 345
1997 GT - 300
1997 Z28 - 340
2002 GT - 302
2002 Z28 - 340
2014 GT - 390
2014 SS - 420
Actually, I think the difference is that there are so many Camaro and GM shows around the country that a gathering of 2000 at one place doesn't usually happen. With that, you don't get the sides of the road lined with people trying to get you to do stupid things. Again, I know drivers of all performance cars do dumb things with 'em, but if the people weren't there trying to video cars leaving, would there have been these issues? I could be wrong since I'm new to the Mustang world, but are there Mustang shows everywhere also? And this is just an annual big event regardless?
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7/24/14, 03:01 PM
#32
Those are torque numbers since AlsCobra mentioned that the Camaro doesn't have the low end torque that a Mustang does. If it was HP, you're right, they are way off!!!!
I don't want this to become a pissing match since I own and enjoy both cars now and have had Chevys my entire life. I am guilty of being sure the facts are accurately spouted though. Also, I know Fbody owners drive their cars the same way and do the same stupid things. My point was to say that the Mustang owners seem to have more spectators capturing these stupid acts than the fbody crowd possibly due to considerably smaller gatherings.
I don't want this to become a pissing match since I own and enjoy both cars now and have had Chevys my entire life. I am guilty of being sure the facts are accurately spouted though. Also, I know Fbody owners drive their cars the same way and do the same stupid things. My point was to say that the Mustang owners seem to have more spectators capturing these stupid acts than the fbody crowd possibly due to considerably smaller gatherings.
Last edited by scottmoyer; 7/24/14 at 03:02 PM.
7/24/14, 03:48 PM
#33
Those are torque numbers since AlsCobra mentioned that the Camaro doesn't have the low end torque that a Mustang does. If it was HP, you're right, they are way off!!!!
I don't want this to become a pissing match since I own and enjoy both cars now and have had Chevys my entire life. I am guilty of being sure the facts are accurately spouted though. Also, I know Fbody owners drive their cars the same way and do the same stupid things. My point was to say that the Mustang owners seem to have more spectators capturing these stupid acts than the fbody crowd possibly due to considerably smaller gatherings.
I don't want this to become a pissing match since I own and enjoy both cars now and have had Chevys my entire life. I am guilty of being sure the facts are accurately spouted though. Also, I know Fbody owners drive their cars the same way and do the same stupid things. My point was to say that the Mustang owners seem to have more spectators capturing these stupid acts than the fbody crowd possibly due to considerably smaller gatherings.
7/24/14, 04:09 PM
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That's an intelligent response since the Camaro comes with more horsepower and more torque (at a slightly higher RPM) than the Mustang. Here's a simple comparison:
1987 GT - 300
1987 IROC-Z - 340
1992 GT - 275
1992 Z28 - 345
1997 GT - 300
1997 Z28 - 340
2002 GT - 302
2002 Z28 - 340
2014 GT - 390
2014 SS - 420
Actually, I think the difference is that there are so many Camaro and GM shows around the country that a gathering of 2000 at one place doesn't usually happen. With that, you don't get the sides of the road lined with people trying to get you to do stupid things. Again, I know drivers of all performance cars do dumb things with 'em, but if the people weren't there trying to video cars leaving, would there have been these issues? I could be wrong since I'm new to the Mustang world, but are there Mustang shows everywhere also? And this is just an annual big event regardless?
1987 GT - 300
1987 IROC-Z - 340
1992 GT - 275
1992 Z28 - 345
1997 GT - 300
1997 Z28 - 340
2002 GT - 302
2002 Z28 - 340
2014 GT - 390
2014 SS - 420
Actually, I think the difference is that there are so many Camaro and GM shows around the country that a gathering of 2000 at one place doesn't usually happen. With that, you don't get the sides of the road lined with people trying to get you to do stupid things. Again, I know drivers of all performance cars do dumb things with 'em, but if the people weren't there trying to video cars leaving, would there have been these issues? I could be wrong since I'm new to the Mustang world, but are there Mustang shows everywhere also? And this is just an annual big event regardless?
'87 for example:
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7/24/14, 04:51 PM
#37
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That's an intelligent response since the Camaro comes with more horsepower and more torque (at a slightly higher RPM) than the Mustang. Here's a simple comparison: 1987 GT - 300 1987 IROC-Z - 340 1992 GT - 275 1992 Z28 - 345 1997 GT - 300 1997 Z28 - 340 2002 GT - 302 2002 Z28 - 340 2014 GT - 390 2014 SS - 420 Actually, I think the difference is that there are so many Camaro and GM shows around the country that a gathering of 2000 at one place doesn't usually happen. With that, you don't get the sides of the road lined with people trying to get you to do stupid things. Again, I know drivers of all performance cars do dumb things with 'em, but if the people weren't there trying to video cars leaving, would there have been these issues? I could be wrong since I'm new to the Mustang world, but are there Mustang shows everywhere also? And this is just an annual big event regardless?
7/24/14, 04:56 PM
#38
Cobra Member
sorry - I was focusing on lunch.
7/24/14, 08:54 PM
#40
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Far more Mustang owners, both past and present, that are car enthusiasts. There are at least as many Mustang shows around the country, sanctioned and otherwise, as there are camaro shows. I realize the camaro is a popular car, but come on...we're talking about America's pony/muscle car in the Mustang. If you (scottmoyer) are truly unaware of the popularity and prevalence of the Mustang in these United States, you're either excessively sheltered or have your head in the sand. 