runfox

My wife was watching the local news here in central florida and told me she saw a story that the police are using new 05 Mustang GTs to catch people speeding. She said the police are driving 05 Mustangs ( I understand they are plain no markings to tell them from any other 05 GT) pulling up next to other Mustangs ( I guess any other cars as well) asking them if the want to race, then when the other guys speeds off, the police whip up the blue light and pull them over for speeding.

At first it sorts of sounds like a dirty trick to play, but on the other hand Im glad they are doing it because I dont know of any place around here that is safe to race on the streets. If some one gets a ticket it better than actually racing and getting some one killed. The only place I can see racing anyone would be at a track. I love to run my Mustang up fast like everyone else, but the only place I really wind her up safely is the expressway on ramps and most of the time im behind a slow poke and cant even do that! Thats juts real life, so I dont speed, dont want tickets.

I dont know how many cars the police are using or any deatails , but if another Mustang GT wants to race you here in Florida , I would definitely turn them down, just thought I'd pass that along to all.

Saskwatch

I believe it!!! Florida used to use Camaros to do the same thing. Mostly on the expressway down there though. Already a nice 70MPH limit... Got pulled over in my '88 years back doing that! Not good - BIG ticket!!! :shock:

ex-Galaxie500

That's a cheap way to get people to speed

incorrigible

Sounds like entrapment to me!

vincesandlin

it is entrapment if that is the way it is being carried out!! as a student of law i know that is highly illegal.

gabriel05

if word gets out none of you florida GT guys/girls will ever get challenged again.

scottie1113

There was a lengthy discussion about this in another forum here about a week or so ago. Interesting comments in it.

ILikeBond

Can't believe I'm the first to do this...



http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=28696

adrenalin

I believe it. That is entrapment and around here that would be tossed out of court pretty quick.

cwacaster

How would the police driving a mustang cause any other reasonable and prudent person to want to race?

I drive my mustang all over and I don't have everyone around me trying to race. Iโ€™ve even asked. Not everyone wants to race. Sad to say, but itโ€™s true.

To be entrapped, we, the :cop2: police have to take action that would cause A reasonable, prudent person to do the same thing as a person that has been charged with an offense. In this particular case it is speeding. Do you think that everyone asked accepts the challenge from the officers? More than likely not.

Police sell drugs then arrest the buyers. Police offer sex for money then arrest the โ€˜johnsโ€™. Those people scream entrapment, but since then entire population isnโ€™t getting arrested for buying drugs and sex then it doesnโ€™t make for a viable entrapment defense. Some people are just more prone to stupidity than others. It is to bad stupid is not a criminal offense.

:scratch: So can you please explain how the mere use of a mustang for law enforcement is entrapment?

alfman9

Seminole Counties' Finest. And they dont roll down the window and ask if you want to race, Idiot ricers pull up along side, rev and drop the clutch. FYI, if some one pulls up to you and is in a uniform with a badge, I suggest you respect them and not race them.

cwacaster

Additionally:

ยง 8.06. ENTRAPMENT. a) It is a defense to prosecution
that the actor engaged in the conduct charged because he was induced
to do so by a law enforcement agent using persuasion or other means
likely to cause persons to commit the offense. Conduct merely
affording a person an opportunity to commit an offense does not
constitute entrapment.

In this section "law enforcement agent" includes
personnel of the state and local law enforcement agencies as well as
of the United States and any person acting in accordance with
instructions from such agents.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, ยง 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, ยง 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.

onetorquedhorse

Looks like they tucked away some LED lights in the grill, not to mention that these cars don't have the slew of antenna that the normal squad cars have.

Martimus

Yo Vince... as a student of law you may also want to mention that entrapment is defined differently in different locales. In other words what may be illegal here in Arizona might just be perfectly legal in Texas... or Illinois... or Oregon... or Florida.

To make a blanket statement such as this is not the most prudent thing to do...

05WindveilGT

I don't like it when cops use and lure people to race knowing they are going to slap them with a ticket when not using the classic crown vic, expedition, etc.

Matt

scottie1113

I think a lot of you are operating under the assumption that the police officers initiated the race and not the other way around, which you might have known had you followed the other thread. It puts things in a completely different perspective.

And as I said on that one I wholeheartedly concur with the confiscation of cars that have been involved in street races. When I lived in San Diego County until 2 1/2 years ago, I only heard abput cars being confiscated at semi organized street races in places like indutrial complexes and out of the way roads. I don't know what they do there now, but my suggestion is that if you want to race take it to the track.

Mestizo

I find this funny, because Dodge has given police stations Magnums(and Chargers?). A 2005 Hemi Magnum/2006 Charger would be a respectable racer, but the police doesn't even bother with them.

They go get their own Stangs. A word to Dodge......keep trying. haha

AnotherMustangMan

Funny that you say that.

But you are right, it is TOO bad stupidity is not a criminal offense.

UA2k1GT

guess that's why he's still just a student

RottenRonny

Although wordered slightly differently around here, the def is the same in Canada as well. It boils down to, that you would have to be forced into doing something, that you would normally not do.

In this case, you would have to be forced to street race the police car. Since this did not happen, in Canada, this is legally not entrapment.