CAI Questions
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CAI Questions
Hi all-- thinking of getting a cold air intake installed in my 2013 v6. This will be my first and probably only mod on the car, so I had a few questions:
1) First, of course, would getting a CAI void my ford warranty?
2) Is a tune required to maximize the CAI's benefits? I have heard that tuning can void the warranty.
3) What are the actual numbers that you're all seeing from getting the CAI installed? What are the HP and MPG getting?
4) What CAI is the best? It seems like Steeda is the one to go with, is that right?
Thanks everyone!
1) First, of course, would getting a CAI void my ford warranty?
2) Is a tune required to maximize the CAI's benefits? I have heard that tuning can void the warranty.
3) What are the actual numbers that you're all seeing from getting the CAI installed? What are the HP and MPG getting?
4) What CAI is the best? It seems like Steeda is the one to go with, is that right?
Thanks everyone!
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Orien,
A dealership cannot void your warranty unless that part had a direct effect on causing the failure. There would be an investigation that would have to be done to to prove what caused a failure and ultimately void your warranty. There are several threads on this subject that involve the Ford Service blogger. Check them out.
To help put your mind at ease... Steeda Autosports designs, engineers, and manufacturers. One must realize that for over 23 years, Steeda has been working hand-in-hand with Ford on a vast array of programs, both OEM for their production programs as well as aftermarket part related programs. We have directly worked with Ford on many critical programs over the years, and we were the pilot company to work together with Ford Motor Company under the Ford/SEMA Technology Sharing Initiative. In addition, as a testate to the quality and that go into each of our products; we are one of only several aftermarket companies that are ISO 9001-2008 certified. What does all of this mean? It all underscores the Commitment that we have to produce the highest quality level of products that enhance performance for the niche performance customer using the latest technologies and under the auspices of the Ford Technology Program. We thoroughly test our products on the street, track, and dragstrip under the most severe conditions - all with the specific intent of ensuring that the products we sell, will NOT precipitate damage to the vehicle or denial of any OEM warranty provisions. To date, we have zero issues or denials with regard to an OEM warranty when our products have been installed as directed on consumer cars - ZERO!
This does not happen by chance, rather it is because of the commitment we have for the upmost level of quality, the fact that we design/engineer/manufacture our products under strict ISO 9001-2008 procedures, and also because of our engineering relationship we have with Ford Motor Company. Our products enhance the OEM product without sacrificing reliability, damaging a vehicle, or adversely affecting NVH qualities to the level that many of our competitors do.
The bottom line: One must choose their aftermarket parts wisely so that the integrity of their vehicle is not compromised. In that accord, it is prudent to align yourself with a proven leader in Ford performance parts and accessories, one that works hand-in-hand with Ford Motor Company, and one that designs, engineers, and manufacturers their products under the same ISO quality system that Ford operates under and lastly, one that has a lifetime guarantee on their products.
Must be aware that approximately 99% of aftermarket companies do not operate under the strict procedures that Steeda does therein lies the "Steeda Difference" that you can have confidence with.
2. This Cold Air Intake is so effective at improving airflow into the 3.7L engine that a performance tune is not just recommended, it is required for maximum performance. You will see good HP gains at high RPMs. A CAI/Tune is like Peanut Butter and Jelly... They are just a natural fit.
3. Combined with the required custom tune using an SCT X3 Flash programming device we have achieved dramatic power increases of up to 20hp and 30ft/lbs of torque!
4.) that is correct..
PM if you have any additional questions.
Best Regards,
TJ
A dealership cannot void your warranty unless that part had a direct effect on causing the failure. There would be an investigation that would have to be done to to prove what caused a failure and ultimately void your warranty. There are several threads on this subject that involve the Ford Service blogger. Check them out.
To help put your mind at ease... Steeda Autosports designs, engineers, and manufacturers. One must realize that for over 23 years, Steeda has been working hand-in-hand with Ford on a vast array of programs, both OEM for their production programs as well as aftermarket part related programs. We have directly worked with Ford on many critical programs over the years, and we were the pilot company to work together with Ford Motor Company under the Ford/SEMA Technology Sharing Initiative. In addition, as a testate to the quality and that go into each of our products; we are one of only several aftermarket companies that are ISO 9001-2008 certified. What does all of this mean? It all underscores the Commitment that we have to produce the highest quality level of products that enhance performance for the niche performance customer using the latest technologies and under the auspices of the Ford Technology Program. We thoroughly test our products on the street, track, and dragstrip under the most severe conditions - all with the specific intent of ensuring that the products we sell, will NOT precipitate damage to the vehicle or denial of any OEM warranty provisions. To date, we have zero issues or denials with regard to an OEM warranty when our products have been installed as directed on consumer cars - ZERO!
This does not happen by chance, rather it is because of the commitment we have for the upmost level of quality, the fact that we design/engineer/manufacture our products under strict ISO 9001-2008 procedures, and also because of our engineering relationship we have with Ford Motor Company. Our products enhance the OEM product without sacrificing reliability, damaging a vehicle, or adversely affecting NVH qualities to the level that many of our competitors do.
The bottom line: One must choose their aftermarket parts wisely so that the integrity of their vehicle is not compromised. In that accord, it is prudent to align yourself with a proven leader in Ford performance parts and accessories, one that works hand-in-hand with Ford Motor Company, and one that designs, engineers, and manufacturers their products under the same ISO quality system that Ford operates under and lastly, one that has a lifetime guarantee on their products.
Must be aware that approximately 99% of aftermarket companies do not operate under the strict procedures that Steeda does therein lies the "Steeda Difference" that you can have confidence with.
2. This Cold Air Intake is so effective at improving airflow into the 3.7L engine that a performance tune is not just recommended, it is required for maximum performance. You will see good HP gains at high RPMs. A CAI/Tune is like Peanut Butter and Jelly... They are just a natural fit.
3. Combined with the required custom tune using an SCT X3 Flash programming device we have achieved dramatic power increases of up to 20hp and 30ft/lbs of torque!
4.) that is correct..
PM if you have any additional questions.
Best Regards,
TJ
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Scuba-Matt,
On this test the car was loaded with a basic tune with no cam timing changes just so we could have a higher rev limiter that way we could rev the engine to the same RPM with both intakes without running into a limiter. Ignition timing was the same for both tunes.
The results show a “peak” gain of only 5 horsepower, but there is a lot more there if you read the dyno sheet. Gains started at about 4,500, with gains of 6 to 9 horsepower between 4,500 and 5,000. Between 5,300 and 6,100 gains were 7 to 10 horsepower. And between 6,700 and 7,200 the gains were an impressive 12 to 15 horsepower. So you can see measureable gains from a cold air intake.
Now what they could come back at you with is how some people don’t see any difference in ¼ mile time. With this power increase in a car weighing 3700 to 3800 pounds with the driver you would be lucky to measure a 10th of a second. This is because the driver alone could loose a 10th of a second just from pass to pass so relying on seeing that 10th of a second is a shot in the dark at best. These are not the days of the Fox body Mustang where a 3100lb car including the driver would see a tenth of a second from just 5 or 6 horsepower. These are heavier cars and that makes a huge difference.
What you can go on is ¼ mile trap speed. With a cold air intake trap speed should go up slightly with the increase in power assuming no gears are missed and the shift points take advantage of the extra upper RPM power. That is how you will see the results of a cold air intake at the drag strip.
On this test the car was loaded with a basic tune with no cam timing changes just so we could have a higher rev limiter that way we could rev the engine to the same RPM with both intakes without running into a limiter. Ignition timing was the same for both tunes.
The results show a “peak” gain of only 5 horsepower, but there is a lot more there if you read the dyno sheet. Gains started at about 4,500, with gains of 6 to 9 horsepower between 4,500 and 5,000. Between 5,300 and 6,100 gains were 7 to 10 horsepower. And between 6,700 and 7,200 the gains were an impressive 12 to 15 horsepower. So you can see measureable gains from a cold air intake.
Now what they could come back at you with is how some people don’t see any difference in ¼ mile time. With this power increase in a car weighing 3700 to 3800 pounds with the driver you would be lucky to measure a 10th of a second. This is because the driver alone could loose a 10th of a second just from pass to pass so relying on seeing that 10th of a second is a shot in the dark at best. These are not the days of the Fox body Mustang where a 3100lb car including the driver would see a tenth of a second from just 5 or 6 horsepower. These are heavier cars and that makes a huge difference.
What you can go on is ¼ mile trap speed. With a cold air intake trap speed should go up slightly with the increase in power assuming no gears are missed and the shift points take advantage of the extra upper RPM power. That is how you will see the results of a cold air intake at the drag strip.
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