I understand that Season 6 has begun filming. I read recently that the writers have enough material for a Season 12 if it lasts that long. I'm on the fence about that....my heart can't take it and it'd really suck if the show outlasted me.

 

I'm afraid they will keep it for 12 seasons. I love the show, but I'm not sure they can keep this same level of production for that long.

 

Never thought it would even last a whole season now here we are! This show has just pulled me in and kept me glued! Love it!

 

My brother lives on the left coast and is a huge Walking Dead weenie like me. Every Monday we speak for over an hour, analyzing every bit of the most recent episode. It's amazing how much you can miss, even if you're glued to the TV for an hour. I sometimes have to catch a repeat to see what got by me.

I've heard that the season finale in several weeks will be extended to 90 minutes. That suggests it's going to be a helluva episode.

 

Yeah, but only the last minute will be good. I have lost most interest with the show, I like season 1-3, but after that not really, some good episodes every once an a while but now I mostly just skim through the episodes

 

So the finale was pretty good. Gotta love carol Wish Glenn would man up and decease that **** already too! Geez! And the campfire scene? I knew it was empty. why waste time talking, right?

 

Yep, loved it. Especially the last fifteen minutes.

I wonder if Carol will shed the easy bake oven routine now?

Was glad Rick killed the guy, but kinda felt bad about it after Morgan showed up. I think he should of told the former senator to do it, but she probably wouldn't have, and he would have had to do it any way.

And I'm with you, Glenn needs to do it already.

 

Yeah, Rick pulled it together, although I never really thought he was losing his grip. He's been right all along...the Alexandrians are naive and weak, and that makes them dangerous. And I'm excited about the return of Morgan.

Carol is the best. I knew Pete was done for when he broke her casserole dish. When this series ends, and if there is only one person left standing, I want it to be Carol. I have a serious crush on that gal and I want to have her baby.

 

She definitely scars me more now than any of the rest.

Also, was super excited to see Mishone pick her katana back up :-)

Not sure that all of the Alexandrians are going to get in line, but I think they will when the wolves start knocking on the door.


Knock knock knock..... Better let me in before I blow your house down. ;-)

 

I understand why Glenn didn't kill Nick and why Father Gabriel even lived. The Rickateers are really decent people who had to play by a whole new set of rules. The season finale was all about redemption and forgiveness and a lot of issues got resolved among our group, and with the Alexandrians. The two groups may not exactly be on the same page yet, but at least they're reading the same book. They need to band together now to deal with what's coming next season.

The writers are very clever and inject some subtle political overtones, religious stuff, and lots of symbolism. Did you happen to make the connection between the guy in the red poncho and The Wolves.....Little Red Riding Hood perhaps?

And just when I think that can't find any new ways of killing walkers, along comes Daryl swinging a chain and taking three heads off at once. That's right up there with the Jack O' Lantern zombie kill in the woods recently.

 

I was actually disappointed.


I liked the episode overall, but I hate this introduction of "The Wolves". It means that the TV show is going to depart entirely from the comic series in a way that I don't want. It suggests that they're going to return to the prison/Woodbury scenario, just with more violent people making up the new Woodbury. I was really looking forward to The Saviors and Negan, Hilltop and the Kingdom, Jesus, and the war, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Instead we're going to convert the prison into Alexandria and make some warehouse complex the new Woodbury.


Why make up The Wolves group which has no part in the comics? If they were going to skip the entire war then the least they could have done is introduced The Whisperers. I hardly consider a bunch of thugs with W's carved in their foreheads to be a scary threat.


The Whisperers on the other hand....

 

I don't follow the comic, but I undertand that the Wolves are the Saviors. I saw Robert Kirkman on The Talking Dead several episodes ago and he said that series will follow the comic a little more closely in Season 6. Don't forget, the TV show is only based on the book. As violent as the show is, I've heard it doesn't even come close to what the comic does.

I'm pretty much a TWD weenie. Yup, I drink this Kool-Aid.

 

They Wolves may be based on the Saviors, but they are not the Saviors as depicted in the comics. In the comics the Saviors are like a cartel. They extort other settlements (There are supposed to be other settlements in the area that they have contact with before meeting the Saviors) and in exchange provide a degree of protection to those settlements.

The Saviors don't hunt down and kill people for no reason. They want to use people, have other people do the grunt work of collecting food and supplies for them, not kill them.

The Wolves don't fit that profile. They're just out hunting down people and killing them. And they don't seem to be as large or as well organized as the Saviors who numbered in the hundreds. It's a major deviation.


But I suppose it has a lot to do with the scale of the comics and the budget limitations of the show. The Saviors number close to 300 people, Hilltop should have around 200 survivors, The Kingdom should have more than a hundred. Alexandria should number around 75. The Saviors compound should be surrounded by a wall of chained up zombies numbering in the hundreds, and several battles should involve around 100 people at a time and zombie herds draw in by the sound of gunfire and explosions should run into the thousands. It seems like it was all too much for the show so they scaled back to a prison/Woodbury type formula which was much easier to manage.

I would love to be wrong and see the show follow the comics, but if that was their intent then introducing The Wolves like they did is all wrong.

 

Finally.

 

I'm ready. Been pumped for weeks now. Fear TWD was a nice appetizer but I'm ready for the main course.

 

I'm just not feeling the love for FTWD. It feels like the writers are forcing character development too quickly instead of letting it happen organically as they did in TWD. However, we did get a look at societal breakdown as it was happening. I'd still like to know more about what caused the virus.

Still, I can't bond with any of the players in FTWD, especially the drug addict son and his enabler mother. It seems Travis might become the unwilling leader but I haven't experienced any "holy crap" moments like I do with the original.

 

I'm with you, I haven't been sold on it yet. I do however find it more entertaining than anything else that comes on Sunday nights.

The only characters I like so far are Daniel Salazar and our new found salesman of the century (can't remember his name).

As for the writing, I think it will get better. I remember hearing somewhere that they didn't know where they were going with the show until after they had written like half the season. That's when they came up with the idea for the boat, that they introduced in the season finally.

 

FTWD is like The Walking Dead for retards. I couldn't get in to it because it was a barrage of stupid after stupid after stupid. Not one person in the group has the slightest bit of common sense. They come up with plans like "Let's go to the desert with just two boxes of food and a couple of bottles of water". Or "I know it's a zombie apocalypse, but I don't like guns and don't want my son to learn how to defend himself". And the season finale... "Let's go get on a boat, which should last for a week or two until we run out of fuel, and then what?"

NONE of them have thought about what to do beyond the end of the week. Even as the world falls apart around them and it becomes more and more obvious that things will never return to normal their best plan would have then floating aimlessly in the ocean with no fuel or power and no fresh water within 2 weeks. And they can't exactly just pull in to port somewhere for a fillup. Surely every boat owner would have had the the same idea so all of the pumps would be dry and the port cities would be either overrun by zombies or under the control of pirates who prey off other boaters. And since Mr Teacher doesn't like guns, they're pretty limited on their self defense capabilities.

It's like they designed the entire show around characters that weren't supposed to last through the first season.

 

So what did y'all think about Sunday's episode?

 

That was a helluva season premier. I thought the use of B&W to to show the current timeline was really effective. I'm hoping we learn more about how Morgan has been surviving since his last full appearance in Season Two's "Clear". Despite just a few episodes, he's become one of my favorite characters and it looks like he's going to be a regular. It's going to be fun watching the interplay between him and Carol too. We got a little hint of that already.

It'll be interesting to see Rick's leadership being put to the test. Overall he's made the right moves, but not having a plan B at the quarry seems like a lapse in judgement. He's also starting to alienate some folks....Jessie, Jessies son Ron, and even Daryl, and he doesn't seem to have a full vote of confidence from most of the Alexandria survivors.

Yup, I'm still drinking TWD Kool-Aid.

By the way, did anyone recognize Carter? You might remember him as "Nick Papageorgio" from Vegas Vacation.