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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Deadly Mass Shootings at Fort Hood

7 dead, 20 others injured according to FoxNews...

Multiple shooters....

Why?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801...me_and_courts/
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Who the heck decides to take on an Army at an army base? This seems weird and I'm guessing this will be a growing story.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Holy crap! I've done a lot of work (and spent a lot of time) in Killeen. I'm sure the community will be devastated.

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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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My Aunt and Uncle have lived there as long as I can remember. My Uncle stayed there after he was discharged from the Army after Vietnam. They still live with the shadow of the 1991 Luby's cafeteria shooting.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Why does this not surprise me...I had a bad feeling about this...

Suspected shooter's name...
Major Malik Nadal Hasan


http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-ki...ory?id=9007938


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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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... U.S. officials identified the gunman as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, an Army psychiatrist...

And likely to be muslim radical or a sympathizer.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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... U.S. officials identified the gunman as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, an Army psychiatrist...

And likely to be muslim radical or a sympathizer.
Or ironically just went nuts.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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I been hearing about this on the radio all day. It's just sad
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Or ironically just went nuts.
That is not the case at all. I am pretty sure my previous comment will be proven to be correct. Who in the world would harm comrades who share such much of their lives?

Ignored alarms and warnings will likely come to light and if it wasn't because of political correctness or the fear of offending a particular ethnic group, this event might have been prevented.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Who's leading the investigation? the Army?
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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The minute I read his name, I figured everyone in the country would start assuming it was terrorism or religion-related. I dunno though, doesn't really fit their MO. I would have expected civilians in that case, not military victims. I'm not going to jump to conclusions simply based on his name, though. We'll see what the investigation uncovers.

Prayers for the lost and injured as well as their loved ones!
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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The minute I read his name, I figured everyone in the country would start assuming it was terrorism or religion-related. I dunno though, doesn't really fit their MO. I would have expected civilians in that case, not military victims. I'm not going to jump to conclusions simply based on his name, though. We'll see what the investigation uncovers.

Prayers for the lost and injured as well as their loved ones!
+1. Also waiting for more info about any accomplices.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 05:09 AM
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The minute I read his name, I figured everyone in the country would start assuming it was terrorism or religion-related...
From information coming out the assumptions are justified and correct.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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Our prayers go out to those involved.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Our prayers go out to those involved.
+1

I just hate for everyone to jump to conclusions and make this out to be something it's not. Please lets just wait for the facts before we label this as racial or religiously motivated act. It's just as possible that this person had other issues like many other murders and domestic terrorists that have nothing to do with race or religion.

Here is what MSNBC had to say about the shooter:

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For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, in July, the 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing a career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.

But his record wasn't sterling. At Walter Reed, he received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly. And while he was an intern, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
Investigators had not determined for certain whether Hasan was the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke to The AP on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.
The FBI, local police and other agencies searched Hasan's apartment Thursday night after evacuating the complex in Killeen, said city spokeswoman Hilary Shine. She referred questions about what was found to the FBI. The FBI in Dallas referred questions to a spokesman who was not immediately available early Friday
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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Some people don't want to 'jump' to conclusions and I understand that. But honestly if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

Prayers for all the families and friends of the victims. These things should not happen.

What I don't want to see is someone start blaming our foreign policy or the war on terror. There are thousands of troops who don't want to have to go serve overseas, but they don't kill a dozen people. We are so PC conditioned that we say things like..we don't know the facts...or...he just didn't want to go to Iraq...well why didn't he want to go to Iraq?

If the quote from the MSNBC website above is factual, then the neglect of law enforcement and the Army is gross neglect. I would be willing to bet that they don't fully investigate people like this for fear of it being called profiling or racism.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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I do agree Gary, I also agree w/ not jumping to conclusions (sound like a politician, don't I?).

I think we're pretty well conditioned to see a Muslim name, plus a head dress, plus violence and automatically assume terrorism. This is w/ good reason, which kinda relates to profiling, which I actually think is a good thing when done properly. However, just think about past incidents in our country and what people would've said if the crimes were committed now by Muslims. Think Columbine. I'm pretty confident that if the kids wore a head dress and were named Mohammad, instead of black trenchcoats and American names, that the media would be questioning if this was a terrorist attack on our schools. I'm sure links would be drawn to them and suicide bombers.

Anywho, yeah, right now there's a lot of quacking going on.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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From what I see I'm not ready to call it a terrorist attack. It probably is not. Just because he's Muslim does not make it a terrorist attack and I agree with that.

But what I do see is that there is a problem with a few Muslims in the military that when they don't want to serve they do stuff like this. Remember the Muslim with the hand grenade on the first night of the Iraq war. He didn't want to go. This guy didn't want to go. They hear hate on the net or from somewhere and they snap. Of course its not ALL Muslims and of course it can't be applied to all Muslims, but we can be aware of it, and look at it, without it being profiling or racism.
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