ZL1 Drag Test in the hands of a Novice
1/25/12, 11:19 AM
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ZL1 Drag Test in the hands of a Novice
Welp here is a test of the ZL1 in the hands of a guy who does not drag race.
13.5 without launch control, 13.0 with it on...Hmmmm
BTW Camaro5 seems to be divided on this one....Lot of wheel hop it seems, would have thought the launch control chevy brags about would have cut it some more. I would think it would have tested a little faster, but maybe that's right ? Goes to show that the Tire makes a difference. Perhaps the chevy's guys will now know the pain GT500 guys feel with tires.
Nice undercarriage on that car.
Edit: Reworded a few things....Want a discussion, not a bash.
Discuss:
13.5 without launch control, 13.0 with it on...Hmmmm
BTW Camaro5 seems to be divided on this one....Lot of wheel hop it seems, would have thought the launch control chevy brags about would have cut it some more. I would think it would have tested a little faster, but maybe that's right ? Goes to show that the Tire makes a difference. Perhaps the chevy's guys will now know the pain GT500 guys feel with tires.
Nice undercarriage on that car.
Edit: Reworded a few things....Want a discussion, not a bash.
Discuss:
Last edited by Ninjak; 1/25/12 at 11:42 AM.
1/25/12, 07:53 PM
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1/25/12, 10:25 PM
#5
Right now we are seeing a lot of very low 12 second runs and, if I am not mistaken, one 12 flat. So far I think 1/4 mile performance gets a solid 'meh' on the new ZL1, that is really no better than the CTS-V can muster with less hp, more weight, and a taller gear set. Things could turn around but, right now, it looks like GM has run smack dab into the traction issues so many theorized they weren't going to have problems with.
1/25/12, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
Right now we are seeing a lot of very low 12 second runs and, if I am not mistaken, one 12 flat. So far I think 1/4 mile performance gets a solid 'meh' on the new ZL1, that is really no better than the CTS-V can muster with less hp, more weight, and a taller gear set. Things could turn around but, right now, it looks like GM has run smack dab into the traction issues so many theorized they weren't going to have problems with.
1/25/12, 10:47 PM
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Looks like you are right and I indeed didn't recall correctly 11Shelby, thus far nobody I can find has matched the factory claim of 12 flat with MT coming closest. Here is a rundown of what I could find for reference.
Automobile: 12.6 seconds
Car and Driver: 12.3 seconds
Motor Trend: 12.1 seconds
Popular Mechanics: 12.57 seconds
Autoblog: 'Mid 12's'
For the record, speaking specifically to 1/4 mile times, I'm not seeing anything here that seriously outclasses the outgoing GT500. Unless better times await, or the serious effort put into improving traction and the more powerful engine the 2013 are getting amount to next to nothing which seems unlikely, I think the Camaro is becoming the underdog in the acceleration battle here to say the least.
Automobile: 12.6 seconds
Car and Driver: 12.3 seconds
Motor Trend: 12.1 seconds
Popular Mechanics: 12.57 seconds
Autoblog: 'Mid 12's'
For the record, speaking specifically to 1/4 mile times, I'm not seeing anything here that seriously outclasses the outgoing GT500. Unless better times await, or the serious effort put into improving traction and the more powerful engine the 2013 are getting amount to next to nothing which seems unlikely, I think the Camaro is becoming the underdog in the acceleration battle here to say the least.
1/25/12, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jsaylor
Looks like you are right and I indeed didn't recall correctly 11Shelby, thus far nobody I can find has matched the factory claim of 12 flat with MT coming closest. Here is a rundown of what I could find for reference.
Automobile: 12.6 seconds
Car and Driver: 12.3 seconds
Motor Trend: 12.1 seconds
Popular Mechanics: 12.57 seconds
Autoblog: 'Mid 12's'
For the record, speaking specifically to 1/4 mile times, I'm not seeing anything here that seriously outclasses the outgoing GT500. Unless better times await, or the serious effort put into improving traction and the more powerful engine the 2013 are getting amount to next to nothing which seems unlikely, I think the Camaro is becoming the underdog in the acceleration battle here to say the least.
Automobile: 12.6 seconds
Car and Driver: 12.3 seconds
Motor Trend: 12.1 seconds
Popular Mechanics: 12.57 seconds
Autoblog: 'Mid 12's'
For the record, speaking specifically to 1/4 mile times, I'm not seeing anything here that seriously outclasses the outgoing GT500. Unless better times await, or the serious effort put into improving traction and the more powerful engine the 2013 are getting amount to next to nothing which seems unlikely, I think the Camaro is becoming the underdog in the acceleration battle here to say the least.
1/26/12, 06:56 AM
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The ZL1 isn't really built with the drag strip in mind so I don't think the 1/4 numbers really matter anyways. Certainly the specs suggest it should be capable of low 12s so I have no reason to doubt that 12.1.
1/26/12, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
The ZL1 isn't really built with the drag strip in mind so I don't think the 1/4 numbers really matter anyways. Certainly the specs suggest it should be capable of low 12s so I have no reason to doubt that 12.1.
1/26/12, 04:01 PM
#11
Love that wheel hop on that fancy magnetic suspension that GM guys said would be impossible. lol
You should probably tell the engineers that, have you seen the video with the Drag mode for the Drag strip??
^why would they make a drag mode and put all that work into it?
not made for the 1/4 is a GM excuse for not beating the GT500 in the 1/4.
Simple.
^why would they make a drag mode and put all that work into it?
not made for the 1/4 is a GM excuse for not beating the GT500 in the 1/4.
Simple.
Last edited by fdjizm; 1/26/12 at 04:06 PM.
1/26/12, 04:06 PM
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Love that wheel hop on that fancy magnetic suspension that GM guys said would be impossible. lol
You should probably tell the engineers that, have you seen the video with the Drag mode for the Drag strip??
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - Phase Two - Refining Launch Control - YouTube
^why would they make a drag mode and put all that work into it?
not made for the 1/4 is a GM excuse for not beating the GT500 in the 1/4.
Simple.
You should probably tell the engineers that, have you seen the video with the Drag mode for the Drag strip??
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - Phase Two - Refining Launch Control - YouTube
^why would they make a drag mode and put all that work into it?
not made for the 1/4 is a GM excuse for not beating the GT500 in the 1/4.
Simple.
(I am hoping the GT500 slaughters it there)
1/26/12, 04:13 PM
#14
They are going to hold on to that ring time for dear life.
I'd like a nice list of people who will be shipping their brand new ZL1's to germany to run "the ring" for some reason I feel it will be short or non-existent.
the ring, the ring, oh the ring, well we still ran the ring better, wtf let it go you're not going to germany!!
I'd like a nice list of people who will be shipping their brand new ZL1's to germany to run "the ring" for some reason I feel it will be short or non-existent.
the ring, the ring, oh the ring, well we still ran the ring better, wtf let it go you're not going to germany!!
1/26/12, 04:16 PM
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They are going to hold on to that ring time for dear life.
I'd like a nice list of people who will be shipping their brand new ZL1's to germany to run "the ring" for some reason I feel it will be short or non-existent.
the ring, the ring, oh the ring, well we still ran the ring better, wtf let it go you're not going to germany!!
I'd like a nice list of people who will be shipping their brand new ZL1's to germany to run "the ring" for some reason I feel it will be short or non-existent.
the ring, the ring, oh the ring, well we still ran the ring better, wtf let it go you're not going to germany!!
1/26/12, 06:26 PM
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They need to schedule some time at one of the mid-atlantic hero tracks before things warm up on the east coast, somebody could probably crack the 11's down here.
Last edited by bob; 1/26/12 at 06:30 PM.
1/26/12, 08:25 PM
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Ring times are nice, though. Gives you a general idea of how cars stack up against each other on perhaps the most ridiculous road course in the world. "The Green Hell." I hope Ford releases a time for the GT500.
Last edited by m4a1mustang; 1/26/12 at 08:27 PM.
1/26/12, 09:50 PM
#19
Unless the improvements Ford threw at the 2013 GT500 amount to very little in the way of performance and traction I think the practical bet is riding on the Blue Oval in terms of acceleration, but that is just a guess. Ultimately I'm just surprised that the acceleration of this car doesn't seem to represent more of an improvement over the CTS-V than it does given the advantages....perhaps I just expected too much.
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