UAW seeking record $10,000 signing bonuses for each member
9/13/11, 09:28 PM
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Is your company public? If so, what's the symbol?
*And keep it mind that with rising costs of benefit packages, that raise percentage you achieve prob won't be all in cash - your 'compensation' includes everything it costs to have you there.
Last edited by cdynaco; 9/13/11 at 09:32 PM.
9/13/11, 09:35 PM
#22
A Man Just Needs Some....
Originally Posted by cdynaco
So why record profits? Did volume stay up? Did they have to lay off but able to maintain reasonable volume so overall labor costs were less? Did the drop in (some) commodities help cost factors? Or have they increased exports to where the economy is better than the stinky US?
Is your company public? If so, what's the symbol?
9/13/11, 10:23 PM
#24
A Man Just Needs Some....
Originally Posted by cdynaco
All that bull crud about America and you work for the freakin' Bratwursts?? lol In Lucyanna??Hell, I'd strike for a 10% raise then!!
9/14/11, 10:40 AM
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That government workers have unionized - rather than have wages and benefits handled through the legislature - is double bull crap. Its the national workers party (including armed police) - aligned against the citizen taxpayer. And that's too dam close to former Germany for me.
Well having seen what my dad went through with 21 years of service in the military with his work in the DAV/AL and what my brother has gone through with almost 20 years of service I'm not so sure about that.
However, your assumptions that ALL companies would throw benefits out the window, or that without unions there would be no benefits, is inaccurate.
Given what I have seen both in the media and my own company, the latter of which I'd consider pretty stand-up, The old man that runs the company doesn't bow easily to Wall Street, treats the employees as you suggest for the most part but then I've seen where the company at large has been run like the company founder intended. The most glaring example was a statement from our property procurement guy and I'm paraphrasing here since its been awhile but he said; "We'd be crazy not to take advantage of eminent domain, our competitors do and we have to as well".
As good as I think my compnay is (and I've been with them for over 20 years) that is only part of the reason wmy I have no faith in big business in general and would fully expect in an environment without a union even a stand-up business like mine would bow to competitve pressure and jump onboard with the lowest common deominator.
Time to quit then, and prove how stupid that *** is. Union isn't required.
Also, the rest of your post? Unions aren't required there either. Personal accountability is required.. as well as the idea that you WON'T be run roughshod. Have a little dignity regarding your wrench turning, and don't help them be asses by continuing to work for pennies.
/of course, they'll just go across the border, but you'll have your dignity, yeah?
//No good answer on this one either, simply because honor isn't part of the equation on either side.
///Except the members. They're honorable, they don't cross when pickets are up.
Also, the rest of your post? Unions aren't required there either. Personal accountability is required.. as well as the idea that you WON'T be run roughshod. Have a little dignity regarding your wrench turning, and don't help them be asses by continuing to work for pennies.
/of course, they'll just go across the border, but you'll have your dignity, yeah?
//No good answer on this one either, simply because honor isn't part of the equation on either side.
///Except the members. They're honorable, they don't cross when pickets are up.
Last edited by bob; 9/14/11 at 10:48 AM.
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