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Old 12/14/07, 12:24 PM
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Tundra, again

Tundra, again with product issue.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071214/...8DRW6fyD.s0NUE

I had heard/read rumors that the production launch of the Tundra had changed a couple of times and that some inside Toyota felt that the product launch was hurried to meet a specific market date. At the time, I didn't think it was likely, but now I have to wonder if the spate of problems, camshafts, tailgates, propeller shafts, et al are the results of pushing up the product delivery date.

Toyota set a pretty aggressive goal of 200,000 unit sales of the 2007 Tundra. Though I doubt the recall is serious enough to damage Toyota overall, it sure won't help them meet their target on Tundra.
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These things continue to amaze me.
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It's official: Toyota's are now sh*t!

Sharp moves from the Land of the Rising Sun...

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I am not suprised quality has gone down hill !!
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Nice!
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Hopefully all these problems will start taking a toll on Toyota.
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JMO, "The truck that's Changing Everything" has put Toyota in an awkward position. New product; new factory--there were bound to be a few glitches, but I doubt Toyota counted on the severity of the problems. Camshafts breaking and having to be replaced isn't something to dismiss casually. The tailgates tearing and failing under load is not something you want to advertise. The "rumble strip" issues with the torque converter haven't all been resolved yet. The Tundra was a product Toyota had a lot riding on.

The goal of 200,000 units is one that they are going to have trouble meeting. Despite some unprecedented new product incentives on Tundra, Toyota is still about 20,000 units short of its goal. A measure of how desparate Toyota is to meet that goal and declare the Tundra a success is reflected in new incentives. Customer cash (according to Edmunds) is up to $3,000--1K more than in May. Now that the Toyotathon is in full swing even more incentives may be added on top of that. There's even $2K on 2008 Tundras.
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Originally Posted by theedge67
Hopefully all these problems will start taking a toll on Toyota.
+1 man...+1
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MotorTrend announces the 2008 Truck of the Year

http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/...02_toty_winner

1) Camshafts failing
2) Tailgates failing - action by Toyota only when Tundra owners started an on-line petition to address the problem.
3) Torque converters failing to disengage (so called rumble strip problem) - Toyota has agreed to replace the torque converters for those owners that complain of the problem
4) Propeller shafts failing - improper welds causing them to break

Add it all up and you have the Truck of the Year.

MotorTrend credibility = 0
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wow, motor trend messed up on that one.
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What a joke.
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The automotive media (print and TV) seems to take no notice of this continued BS from toyota. I was watching a show a couple days ago where they were praising the tundra and not once did they mention any of the numerous problems owners are having with these things.
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I'd use my copy of MotorTrend for toilette paper now...but I get a digital copy....

Can't wipe my *** with 1's and 0's....
Although..I COULD print it off....
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They obviously really don't care about what they pick.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Can't wipe my *** with 1's and 0's....
Although..I COULD print it off....
Its only natural to use 1's and 0's to help you with number 2's.
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Originally Posted by Blue Notch
They obviously really don't care about what they pick.
They CARE about which companies grease their palms under the table.

The rags are bought and paid for by the automobile companies that give them the most money in the form of advertising, travel per diems and payoffs. If it weren't for that, these rags would go out of business quickly against the proliferation of Internet magazines.
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According to Motor Trend: “The new Toyota Tundra is now ready to take on any American-made pickup truck — on all levels.â€

BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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More proof that rice just doesn't grow real well in America.
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I hope the legions of Toyota lemmings take notice and promptly give their business to Ford, Chrysler, and GM.
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Originally Posted by exgto
I hope the legions of Toyota lemmings take notice and promptly give their business to Ford, Chrysler, and GM.
The toyota lemmings buy them because theyre not car people, and mainly just care about having a reliable car. Unfortunateoly, buyers who arent car people usually arent too up to date on the automotive world, and have no idea whats been going on with toyota for the last year or two or whatever. I think its gonna take a long time before people start jumping ship.


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