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12/31/12, 11:03 AM
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I might have more confidence in your conspiracy (related to US Government) if Toyota didn't employ such a large number of workers in the US. That being stated, I agree that the unintended acceleration claims were overblown, but more to public ineptitude as opposed to the Government targeting Toyota specifically.
12/31/12, 01:47 PM
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bent valves, damaged pistons, possible ruined head... 
...for the price of a stupid toothed belt.
(that's why I liked my Saturns over Toys - they had chains.)
...for the price of a stupid toothed belt.
(that's why I liked my Saturns over Toys - they had chains.)
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12/31/12, 01:49 PM
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yup.. The belt was going to be $800 for parts and labor. I told him tog et a cheap motor off ebay for $1000 and have it installed for $900 and then trade it in.
12/31/12, 01:53 PM
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It's funny how the USA government started finding issues with Toyotas, the world's largest automaker, about the same time when GM and Chrysler filed for bankruptcy and Ford had to sell and/or use for a collateral (to get bank loans) everything they own in order to survive.
Amazing "coincidence", ain't it?
Just like the USA government started finding problems with Hyundai and Kia after each company had the best year in the USA.
It's funny how that happens ...
Amazing "coincidence", ain't it?
Just like the USA government started finding problems with Hyundai and Kia after each company had the best year in the USA.
It's funny how that happens ...
12/31/12, 02:28 PM
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Toyota Camry & Prius V score poorly in new IIHS test
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ash-tests.html
'13 Toyota Camry
the dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was not maintained well.
During the crash, the dummy's head barely contacted the frontal airbag before sliding off to the left as the steering column moved to the right. The seat belt allowed the dummy to move too far forward, as is evident from the gap between the seat back and the dummy's torso, and the head hit the instrument panel. The side curtain airbag did not extend far enough forward toward the A-pillar.
Intrusion into the occupant compartment was extensive. The door hinge pillar began to tear as the wheel and tire was pushed back, and this intrusion combined with that of the parking brake pedal and instrument panel contributed to a moderate risk of injuries to the left lower leg, ankle, and heel.
'13 Fusion
The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained reasonably well.
The dummy’s head contacted the frontal airbag but then slid off the left side. The side curtain airbag extended far enough forward toward the A-pillar to protect the head from contact with forward side structure.
Except for door hinge pillar deformation, intrusion into the driver's space was reasonably well controlled, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low.
Toyota Recalls:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/safety-recall/
Toyota Recalls 7.43million vehicles
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/toyo...ears-1C6374378
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Toyota Camry & Prius V score poorly in new IIHS test
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ash-tests.html
'13 Toyota Camry
the dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was not maintained well.
During the crash, the dummy's head barely contacted the frontal airbag before sliding off to the left as the steering column moved to the right. The seat belt allowed the dummy to move too far forward, as is evident from the gap between the seat back and the dummy's torso, and the head hit the instrument panel. The side curtain airbag did not extend far enough forward toward the A-pillar.
Intrusion into the occupant compartment was extensive. The door hinge pillar began to tear as the wheel and tire was pushed back, and this intrusion combined with that of the parking brake pedal and instrument panel contributed to a moderate risk of injuries to the left lower leg, ankle, and heel.
'13 Fusion
The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained reasonably well.
The dummy’s head contacted the frontal airbag but then slid off the left side. The side curtain airbag extended far enough forward toward the A-pillar to protect the head from contact with forward side structure.
Except for door hinge pillar deformation, intrusion into the driver's space was reasonably well controlled, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low.
Toyota Recalls:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/safety-recall/
Toyota Recalls 7.43million vehicles
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/toyo...ears-1C6374378
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1/1/13, 06:59 PM
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Again:
Toyota Camry & Prius V score poorly in new IIHS test
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ash-tests.html
'13 Toyota Camry
the dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was not maintained well.
During the crash, the dummy's head barely contacted the frontal airbag before sliding off to the left as the steering column moved to the right. The seat belt allowed the dummy to move too far forward, as is evident from the gap between the seat back and the dummy's torso, and the head hit the instrument panel. The side curtain airbag did not extend far enough forward toward the A-pillar.
Intrusion into the occupant compartment was extensive. The door hinge pillar began to tear as the wheel and tire was pushed back, and this intrusion combined with that of the parking brake pedal and instrument panel contributed to a moderate risk of injuries to the left lower leg, ankle, and heel.
'13 Fusion
The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained reasonably well.
The dummy’s head contacted the frontal airbag but then slid off the left side. The side curtain airbag extended far enough forward toward the A-pillar to protect the head from contact with forward side structure.
Except for door hinge pillar deformation, intrusion into the driver's space was reasonably well controlled, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low.
Toyota Camry & Prius V score poorly in new IIHS test
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ash-tests.html
'13 Toyota Camry
the dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was not maintained well.
During the crash, the dummy's head barely contacted the frontal airbag before sliding off to the left as the steering column moved to the right. The seat belt allowed the dummy to move too far forward, as is evident from the gap between the seat back and the dummy's torso, and the head hit the instrument panel. The side curtain airbag did not extend far enough forward toward the A-pillar.
Intrusion into the occupant compartment was extensive. The door hinge pillar began to tear as the wheel and tire was pushed back, and this intrusion combined with that of the parking brake pedal and instrument panel contributed to a moderate risk of injuries to the left lower leg, ankle, and heel.
'13 Fusion
The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained reasonably well.
The dummy’s head contacted the frontal airbag but then slid off the left side. The side curtain airbag extended far enough forward toward the A-pillar to protect the head from contact with forward side structure.
Except for door hinge pillar deformation, intrusion into the driver's space was reasonably well controlled, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low.
Toyota Recalls:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/safety-recall/
Toyota Recalls 7.43million vehicles
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/toyo...ears-1C6374378
http://pressroom.toyota.com/safety-recall/
Toyota Recalls 7.43million vehicles
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/toyo...ears-1C6374378
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1/1/13, 07:15 PM
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GM had a record loss of $38.7 billion in 2007 and $30.8 billion loss in 2008 - yeah, it was very difficult to see that they weren't gonna survive for a long time without asking for government help.
How could've anyone predicted that ...
Oh by the way ...
Recalls, tsunami in Japan and slow sales in the world largest market (China) due to the conflict between the Japan and China = Toyota still #1.
p.s. Anyone wants to bet that the next big scandal (recalls due to safety, fuel economy ...) is gonna happens to either Subaru and/or Volkswagen in the USA?
How could've anyone predicted that ...
Oh by the way ...
Recalls, tsunami in Japan and slow sales in the world largest market (China) due to the conflict between the Japan and China = Toyota still #1.
Toyota will regain the title of world’s largest automaker by the end the year, with a combined group production of around 10 million units.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...pan-and-china/
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...pan-and-china/
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1/2/13, 04:30 PM
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1/2/13, 04:34 PM
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Nah that's not it. Toyota has really gone down with their quality in the last 20 or so years. And that's talking about long term reliability. Like 5+ years. Toyota had a big problem in the early 2000's with engines being sludged up solid. Electronics are a joke. It's not the government, its Toyota sitting back on their good reputation and not continuously improving their products. They still make a few good models but they are nothing exceptional compared to their competition.
1/2/13, 04:41 PM
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Toyota's quality has gone down in the past 15-20 years, but they're still the best when it comes to affordable (non-luxury) companies.
2012 JD Powers Long Term (vehicles 3 years old).
Problems per 100 vehicles
1. Lexus, 86
2. Porsche, 98
3. Cadillac, 104
3. Toyota, 104
4. Scion, 111
5. Mercedes-Benz, 112
6. Lincoln, 116
7. Ford, 124
8. Buick, 125
8. Hyundai, 125
9. Acura, 129
10. Honda, 131
11. Chevrolet, 135
12. Volvo, 143
13. Audi, 148
13. Smart, 148
14. Subaru, 149
15. Nissan, 152
16. Mitsubishi, 153
17. BMW, 154
18. GMC, 158
19. Mini, 161
20. Mazda, 163
21. Suzuki, 167
22. Kia, 169
22. Volkswagen, 169
23. Infiniti, 172
23. Jaguar, 172
24. Ram, 174
25. Jeep, 179
26. Dodge, 183
27. Chrysler, 192
2012 JD Powers Long Term (vehicles 3 years old).
Problems per 100 vehicles
1. Lexus, 86
2. Porsche, 98
3. Cadillac, 104
3. Toyota, 104
4. Scion, 111
5. Mercedes-Benz, 112
6. Lincoln, 116
7. Ford, 124
8. Buick, 125
8. Hyundai, 125
9. Acura, 129
10. Honda, 131
11. Chevrolet, 135
12. Volvo, 143
13. Audi, 148
13. Smart, 148
14. Subaru, 149
15. Nissan, 152
16. Mitsubishi, 153
17. BMW, 154
18. GMC, 158
19. Mini, 161
20. Mazda, 163
21. Suzuki, 167
22. Kia, 169
22. Volkswagen, 169
23. Infiniti, 172
23. Jaguar, 172
24. Ram, 174
25. Jeep, 179
26. Dodge, 183
27. Chrysler, 192
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1/2/13, 05:02 PM
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Really? A Mustang GT premium starts at $34,750 in the US. In the Japan the same car would cost $57,392. A 65% increase!
You mean to tell me people wouldn't think twice about buying a Camry if it started at $36,390 instead of $22,055?
You mean to tell me people wouldn't think twice about buying a Camry if it started at $36,390 instead of $22,055?
1/2/13, 05:23 PM
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I don't think it's that ford convinced the public that their products are good but more that T convinced people that theirs aren't. ford has shown their products are superior including fit and finish.
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1/2/13, 05:55 PM
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