Sludge smudges Toyota
2/8/07, 09:34 AM
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I love the way they talk about this Toyota situation getting an inordinate amount of coverage because of their reputation for quality. Quite strange since if I hadn't been reading this thread on this board, I would've never even known about it. By contrast, if this had happened to Ford, CNN would've done a 3 day deal on it.
I mean, it's only engines. Some of which cost as much as $10,000. It doesn't really deserve national coverage does it??
I mean, it's only engines. Some of which cost as much as $10,000. It doesn't really deserve national coverage does it??
2/8/07, 09:39 AM
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Reading the Detroit News piece makes it seem as if it's a current problem; it is not. The last engines to be impacted with a problem were in 2002 models. That is 5 years ago. I think the correct perspective is being lost in the article, but then, it is the DETROIT News. 
2/8/07, 09:48 AM
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It's a current problem from a legal standpoint, hence the relevance of the article.
2/8/07, 10:05 AM
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2/8/07, 11:11 AM
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It's not a matter of giving Toyota a "free pass" on this, as I would not expect to read in a newspaper that (for example) in the case of Ford - "tire failure/rollover problem is latest issue to dent automaker's reputation". In the case of Ford's problems with the Explorer, as with the Toyota engine sludge problems, they were 5 or more years ago and is old news; not the "latest issue" as the Detroit News puts it. Ford has moved on from the problem and so has Toyota.
I find the articles, and certainly the cyber polls, often are biased and/or negative against all makers excluding the Big 3. I guess a local Detroit paper it is bound to be; but as an international website, the bias becomes obvious.
I have had many different vehicles over the years, both domestic and import, and some have been problematic from both domestic and import makers. In the past 20 years however, I would have to say that, generally speaking, the domestics have had more problems than the imports. That said, I think the domestic makers have improved their quality a lot in the immediately past years.
My comment was directed at the bias of the newspaper, and not a slam on any auto maker at all.
I find the articles, and certainly the cyber polls, often are biased and/or negative against all makers excluding the Big 3. I guess a local Detroit paper it is bound to be; but as an international website, the bias becomes obvious.
I have had many different vehicles over the years, both domestic and import, and some have been problematic from both domestic and import makers. In the past 20 years however, I would have to say that, generally speaking, the domestics have had more problems than the imports. That said, I think the domestic makers have improved their quality a lot in the immediately past years.
My comment was directed at the bias of the newspaper, and not a slam on any auto maker at all.
2/8/07, 12:35 PM
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It's not a matter of giving Toyota a "free pass" on this, as I would not expect to read in a newspaper that (for example) in the case of Ford - "tire failure/rollover problem is latest issue to dent automaker's reputation". In the case of Ford's problems with the Explorer, as with the Toyota engine sludge problems, they were 5 or more years ago and is old news; not the "latest issue" as the Detroit News puts it. Ford has moved on from the problem and so has Toyota.
I find the articles, and certainly the cyber polls, often are biased and/or negative against all makers excluding the Big 3. I guess a local Detroit paper it is bound to be; but as an international website, the bias becomes obvious.
I have had many different vehicles over the years, both domestic and import, and some have been problematic from both domestic and import makers. In the past 20 years however, I would have to say that, generally speaking, the domestics have had more problems than the imports. That said, I think the domestic makers have improved their quality a lot in the immediately past years.
My comment was directed at the bias of the newspaper, and not a slam on any auto maker at all.
I find the articles, and certainly the cyber polls, often are biased and/or negative against all makers excluding the Big 3. I guess a local Detroit paper it is bound to be; but as an international website, the bias becomes obvious.
I have had many different vehicles over the years, both domestic and import, and some have been problematic from both domestic and import makers. In the past 20 years however, I would have to say that, generally speaking, the domestics have had more problems than the imports. That said, I think the domestic makers have improved their quality a lot in the immediately past years.
My comment was directed at the bias of the newspaper, and not a slam on any auto maker at all.
2/8/07, 12:45 PM
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Current news maybe as to the legal issues, but not the "lastest issue". However, it's semantics we are arguing; I see your POV, and I trust you see mine.
Let's just leave it be for now.
Let's just leave it be for now.
2/8/07, 01:14 PM
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No problem!
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