Potential problems for Fiesta?
4/20/11, 12:41 PM
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Potential problems for Fiesta?
2012 Hyundai Accent
1.6L 138 hp
6 speed manual
6 speed auto
30 mpg city
40 mpg hwy
$12,500
1.6L 138 hp
6 speed manual
6 speed auto
30 mpg city
40 mpg hwy
$12,500
4/20/11, 01:13 PM
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Well it's much cheaper, more economical, more powerful and maybe not as sporty, but 40 mpg for $12,500 is kinda hard to argue.
Not to mention 10 years / 100,000 miles warranry.
Not to mention 10 years / 100,000 miles warranry.
4/20/11, 01:18 PM
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Needs to be more Astony
Doesn't look as nice on the outside as the fiesta, but interior looks nicer on this those are some great stat numbers. Don't count on Ford letting their car be as it is.
4/20/11, 01:40 PM
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Well, since you mentioned it, I did look at the details of the fantastic 10 yr/100k mile warranty, and came away less than impressed. The actual items covered out to ten years or 100k miles are very very few, basically only catastrophic engine or transmission failure. The warranty is also only good for the original owner, and personally the thought of driving any Hyundai, much less the cheapest one they sell, for 10 years or 100k miles is enough to make me want to puke. Sorry, not impressed.
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Well, since you mentioned it, I did look at the details of the fantastic 10 yr/100k mile warranty, and came away less than impressed. The actual items covered out to ten years or 100k miles are very very few, basically only catastrophic engine or transmission failure. The warranty is also only good for the original owner, and personally the thought of driving any Hyundai, much less the cheapest one they sell, for 10 years or 100k miles is enough to make me want to puke. Sorry, not impressed.
I wouldn't mind driving a Hyundai for that long. I've been driving my Mustang since it was brand new and this is a car built during Ford's crappy years. I would rather drive a POS than spend $500-$600/month for a new car payments. Just my .02.
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Well, since you mentioned it, I did look at the details of the fantastic 10 yr/100k mile warranty, and came away less than impressed. The actual items covered out to ten years or 100k miles are very very few, basically only catastrophic engine or transmission failure. The warranty is also only good for the original owner,
The engine & tranny warranty is the most important at higher miles. Who cares about an A/C or electric window - that's cheap to repair.
Even when Chrysler did their Lifetime Powertrain it was only for the original owner. But the 3 yr b2b went with the car.
Exactly. Ford still lags the competition.
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4/20/11, 03:03 PM
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It's all about what you value in your purchase. If you want the entry price as low as possible, a warranty that lasts as long as possible, and don't need/want much else sure you can make a great case for the Hyundai. Personally, if I'm shopping in this segment I want stuff like SYNC, moon roof, and a sporty ride more than I want an extra 1 mpg.
4/20/11, 03:15 PM
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Hyundai's 100,000 mile warranty is so full of holes it isn't funny..this may be anecdotal, but my brother's sister in law had a timing belt fail on her Elantra 30,000 miles before it was scheduled and despite having maintenance receipts, had the repair denied..that one is currently in the hands of her attorneys. Also have a friend who owns a Sonata that had a bottom end failure (fairly common as far as engine related failures go on that that model) also denied by Hyundai..so make what you want of it...I will take my Fiesta with Ford's PTwarranty and phenomenal build quality (Sure the interior could use a bit more spiff, but the car is sooo great to drive!) over any Korean make.
4/20/11, 03:34 PM
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Hyundai's 100,000 mile warranty is so full of holes it isn't funny..this may be anecdotal, but my brother's sister in law had a timing belt fail on her Elantra 30,000 miles before it was scheduled and despite having maintenance receipts, had the repair denied..that one is currently in the hands of her attorneys.
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Personally I would buy the domestic version. I was never a ford guy but their product line,QUALITY,and dedication to the tech in all aspects of their vehicles tends me to lean in their direction. If you are gonna spend money why buy junk
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4/20/11, 04:54 PM
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4/20/11, 05:29 PM
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Yup, good stiff competition. Not a smack down by any means and Ford doesn't seem content to sit on their hands anymore by letting already released models whither on the vine, so I'd imagine they'll do what is needed to keep the Fiesta competitive. That, and I imagine as fuel prices creep inexorably upwards, long-term, that this class will only grow making room for the Hyundai and Fiesta.
Hyundai is not a company to take for granted anymore as they are putting out some real solid product lately -- never underestimate one's enemy/competitor as the resultant complacency can be competitive death.
Hyundai is not a company to take for granted anymore as they are putting out some real solid product lately -- never underestimate one's enemy/competitor as the resultant complacency can be competitive death.
4/20/11, 08:07 PM
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you guys are forgetting the most important thing that makes the fiesta vs accent battle mute.
the accent is butt-ugly.
now if the fiesta could have a euro-styled bumper that meets u.s. regs
the accent is butt-ugly.
now if the fiesta could have a euro-styled bumper that meets u.s. regs
4/21/11, 05:25 AM
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Nothing wrong with good competition! The Accent Sedan looks a little better, in my opinion, than the Fiesta Sedan, but the 5-Door Fiesta looks better than 5-Door Accent.
It would be interesting to see the breakdown of profit per vehicle between the two. FMC seems to be stepping away from "cheap" to have higher transaction costs/profit per vehicle. (I think this can best be seen in the Focus vs. Elantra. Having sat in both top end models the Focus seems like a much more expensive car (which it is). And I like the Elantra . . . but not as much as the Focus.)
It would be interesting to see the breakdown of profit per vehicle between the two. FMC seems to be stepping away from "cheap" to have higher transaction costs/profit per vehicle. (I think this can best be seen in the Focus vs. Elantra. Having sat in both top end models the Focus seems like a much more expensive car (which it is). And I like the Elantra . . . but not as much as the Focus.)
4/23/11, 09:40 PM
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The base Fiesta starts at $13,300, that's not exactly a gigantic rip compared to Accent's base. Accent also charges a 3 grand premium for for slushbox 6, while Ford's DCT is only $1,100 over their manual. So Auto-to-Auto the base Fiesta is cheaper with a better Box. And the Fiesta has a vast selection of options that the Hyundai just doesn't.
It's all about what you value in your purchase. If you want the entry price as low as possible, a warranty that lasts as long as possible, and don't need/want much else sure you can make a great case for the Hyundai. Personally, if I'm shopping in this segment I want stuff like SYNC, moon roof, and a sporty ride more than I want an extra 1 mpg.
It's all about what you value in your purchase. If you want the entry price as low as possible, a warranty that lasts as long as possible, and don't need/want much else sure you can make a great case for the Hyundai. Personally, if I'm shopping in this segment I want stuff like SYNC, moon roof, and a sporty ride more than I want an extra 1 mpg.
4/23/11, 10:13 PM
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^^^^And all this is exactly why I sell Hyundai for 13 years...and if doing preventative maintenence is a loop hole then... I guess we are all screwed!!!
All manufacturers require that you take care of the car to have warranty coverage
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All manufacturers require that you take care of the car to have warranty coverage
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