http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread...96&forum_id=100

 

I doubt they'll make it

 

ya... sheesh... i can't understand this car.... isn't the Z06 enough?@@?! i mean, holy crap. 650hp is like hyper exotic territory... as in, enzo territory... if the Z06 is pretty much as quick as an F430, i could imagine this blue devil being one of the fastest cars in the world, if not THE fastest. What's the business case for a car like this? Is it just so easy to pop a huge engine into this already fine car that they'll make a significant profit? Or is it purely for the halo effect. If that's the case, i woulda thought the Z06 was enough of a halo. Maybe it didn't bring as much attention to GM as they had hoped.

 

Some dealer posting in a Corvette forum isn't proof enough for me. When I see it from a legit source, then I'll believe it's true.

 

GM posted $1.6 billion third-quarter loss. Not even 650 hp 'Vette can save them now.

 

I go out on a limb and say we will see this car...

Halo cars are amazing for changing preceptions of companies... the Viper did it for dodge when they were bleeding money in the late 80's/early 90's

Maybe they will call it the SS, to keep with the moniker across the board at Chevrolet. Otherwise ZL1 would be cool as well.

 

no matter how much horsepower the blue devil would have, no matter how fast it would be on the track, its still just a CORVETTE! does anyone else realize this??? granted the performance difference between the Z06 and the GT are relatively close, i dont think anyone would rather a corvette over a GT. I mean owning a GT is owning an icon.... a 100k dollar corvette is HARDLY an icon. thats just an example of course, but if Chevy made something like the GT, like a super exotic with that kind of power, i gaurantee that it would be more hyped than a 650hp corvette. even if it IS just a marketing plot to up consumers beleifs about GM. i personally think if they make the blue devil, yeh it would be crazy to see a car with that much power for the ASUMED price of around 100k, but i still think its retarded. just my thoughts

 

I definitely see the just a corvette thing... I don't think the general public will notice a 650hp corvette all that much, definitely not like they would a ford GT. They gotta give this thing some serious distinction in terms of appearance. SVT did a darn good job on the stang. A 650hp corvette would merit much more dramatic changes than what we're seeing on the GT500, they don't have to try to keep this thing under 40K (hey have they finalized pricing on the GT500 by the way? so lazy, can't... check... appropriate forum...) .

As for the name... I think if they're going for the halo effect, they should definitely call it an SS. That'll really do a lot for the likes of SS calibers and impalas.

 

yeh but if they use the SS name for it, what would that do to the Z06 name, cause in my book, and probably most all corvette owners, Z06 is the "halo" name.

 

I see the point that it won't make the same hype as a "domestic exotic" would, but you can't fairly compare a 650hp vette with your run of the mill C6. Its the same as saying that an Evo is the same as a 120hp (or whatever it is) Mitsu Lancer. Same name, completely different car.

 

Yeah, GM needs to focus on building quality cars for the common man & woman - that's where your bread and butter profit comes from.

Re your above comment, understand that Ford, too, still isn't out of the woods:

Full story here

 

If Chevy builds it, say Goodbye to the Ford GT even standing a chance.


The new Z06 is only slower than 1 Ferrari, the Enzo.

 

The GT was built for a purpose...
It fills that purpose NO problems....

At what price point of the SuperVette... I'm guessing it will be CobraR-ish in limited numbers...and exclusiveness.
I'm sad that had to come from a Vette...but in GMs shoes, what else WOULD you do... create a new platform ? or harken on the old ?
The rumoured 6.2L S/C engine for the SuperVette with 650HP..its nice... great, but still a Vette...I agree....
And people WILL buy it...you can guarentee that too....

Where's the line?
Ford kinda has a smart way about them (some of the time)
You have to build something that is appealing and will sell truckloads...
its a fine line....

GM has proven in the past... 'we don't lose horsepower wars'
Dumb ANYONE can build a fast engine... but to make it profitable and appealing.. to more than JUST enthusiaists...

Case in Point:
-Camaro/Trans Am
Rocket Engine in a shoebox....
High horsepower lost out to a car less powerful, but more appealing.

I laugh out loud everytime I hear the SS boards run their mouths....
'The 5th Gen needs the LS7...'
DID YOU GUYS LEARN NOTHING THE LAST TIME?!?!?!

Speed is good...execution is better....

Mustangs and Halo products build on other products to bring us in.
Mustang GTs bring people in to buy them and lower models (V6s) and other cars...
A GT was built as a low production halo car..that brings people interested in.

When your base model halo car is a 400hp Corvette... you're grabbing too high... then you have your Mustang GT-position-like-vette (Z06) which is crazy.... and you build a SVTish vette (Supervette SS)....
Will it attract people to buy the base vette and other vehicles...probably not.

If Ford or Dodge, wants to compete with this...they most certainly could...
The GT chassis I'm sure could withstand more punishment...
As we know the Mustang D2C chassis could...I remember reading the numbers and thinking...wow...

SuperViper, or SuperGTish car...Cobra, GT, GR-1 etc etc....
The V10 that was in the Cobra

But why would you?
Will improving a halo car that much really help the company, other than satisfying the few that want it?
Is it worth the cost and R/D?

We'll find out if the other 2 choose to answer back....

 

Good call Pete

 

That thing would be a killer set of wheels!

 

The C6 Z06 chassis is barely good enough to handle 505hp... they are begging for problems if they up it to 650hp...

 

the 04 Z-06 appealed to me because the raw styling and power, it went together well. the foxes and vettes and camaros are cool because unlike our precious stangs, they arent all computer limited. The 03-04 cobras are less violent then foxes, they seme so computer animated compared to a mild fox or F-body or vette. i think the next Z-06 should have more power but have a smooth good looking appealing body style.

 

You must have missed that I was talking about performance, not sales.

Ford made a smarter choice with their design choosing to go with sales rather than overall performance. With the GT that's obviously all about preserving a legacy and trying to create an American "exotic."

It's pretty funny how I have to defend GM on all of the Ford boards I'm on, and defend Ford on every GM board I'm on. I absolutely can not stand brand bias'.

 

It wasn't directed at you, but in general.