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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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compare apples to apples like I did with KBB. Then Hyundai is the MOST EXPENSIVE. Not even considering the resale value is in the toilet as compared to Honda/Toyota.
Get over Korean cars.. They are for people who have no clue. Look at these comparisons.. Hyundai LAST place.. or somewhere the middle.. Crap cars.. Always have been and always will be

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...limited_page_2

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests

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2007 test? Are your serious? You do know we're in 2011?

How about more recent test, like this one. Best selling compacts:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...an_comparison/

Or this one (Genesis vs Avalon vs Taurus)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...i_genesis_3_8/

Or this one (CR-V vs Tuscon, vs Terrain vs Forester)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/specs.html

Or this one (Genesis coupe vs Mustang vs Camaro vs Challenger)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...challenger_se/
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by topbliss
Made up list. Go to any used car lot and price out the used Korean cars vs Japanese. The Japanese cars will always be higher. ALWAYS. No one wants a used crap car!

edit- I just looked on ebay and sure enough. The first sonata(a 2004 model) with 127k miles gets $4k. The first Accord with the same mileage(TWO years older!!!!! no less) gets $7k. Case closed. Not even close
Their quality has improved dramatically over the past few years. You're comparing significantly older models. I guess we'll have to wait and see. But I would venture to bet that current ones will resell for just as much as current Japanese offerings.
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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edit- I just looked on ebay and sure enough. The first sonata(a 2004 model) with 127k miles gets $4k. The first Accord with the same mileage(TWO years older!!!!! no less) gets $7k. Case closed. Not even close
Do you have any idea how different a 2004 Sonata and a 2012 Sonata are?

There is also a 2004 Taurus with 67,000 miles for $3,700. Does that mean that a 2012 Fusion (also Ford's mid-size car) is gonna have the same depreciation?


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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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great looking cars them Hi yun dais huh!!??


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Do you have any idea how different a 2004 Sonata and a 2012 Sonata are?

There is also a 2004 Taurus with 67,000 miles for $3,700. Does that mean that a 2012 Fusion (also Ford's mid-size car) is gonna have the same depreciation?

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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 01:47 PM
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This was a first Hyundai in the USA, a 1986 Pony. Back then their biggest competition was Yugo.

Compare this picture to what they're offering now. In the past 25 years they went from competing with a Yugo to a #4 company in the world. And they're still not slowing down, they're gonna be #1 someday.

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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by topbliss
except that they are not cheaper and still not better then Japanese cars. Just another "I love Korean cars" post from redstar. When will he stop?
I wonder if he's from Asia or has family that works for them? Seems to be always advertising how much better they are then Domestics..
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
This was a first Hyundai in the USA, a 1986 Pony. Back then their biggest competition was Yugo.

Compare this picture to what they're offering now. In the past 25 years they went from competing with a Yugo to a #4 company in the world. And they're still not slowing down, they're gonna be #1 someday.
They probably will be number1, I don't doubt it. I still rather buy a Ford or Chevy since they are in my city with Plants and employee local people with jobs. I will always help out a local hardware store or local business in my hometown. Even if im paying more.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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this is getting ridiculous
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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this is getting ridiculous
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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Hottest selling cars of the last 30 days article.. Geeze.... Ford has the top vehicle. Dodge second and Chevy third.. Then Toyota and Nissan. Not a Korean in sight.. Can't keep em in stock? Yea ok.

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/top-5-ho...september.html
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by UnrealFord
I wonder if he's from Asia or has family that works for them? Seems to be always advertising how much better they are then Domestics..
Nope, I'm from Serbia, which is in the Eastern Europe.

I'm not saying that Hyundai/Kia is much better than domestics (where did you get that from?), I'm just saying that they're offering the most for the $$$.

I have no connections with Hyundai/Kia, I just like their cars. Next to Ford, they're my favorites.

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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by UnrealFord
They probably will be number1, I don't doubt it. I still rather buy a Ford or Chevy since they are in my city with Plants and employee local people with jobs. I will always help out a local hardware store or local business in my hometown. Even if im paying more.
Hyundai Sonata is built in Alabama.
Ford Fusion is built in Mexico.

If you buy a Fusion, how are you supporting domestic plants and employees?

By the way, I just wanna get the most for my money, it makes no difference to me where the car is being built. For years that was Ford, but now I think Koreans might beat them by offering the most for the money.

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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Hottest selling cars of the last 30 days article.. Geeze.... Ford has the top vehicle. Dodge second and Chevy third.. Then Toyota and Nissan. Not a Korean in sight.. Can't keep em in stock? Yea ok.

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/top-5-ho...september.html
There's a difference between hot and best sellers.

Best selling companies in the world in 2010:

• Toyota: 8.42 million
• General Motors: 8.39 million
• Volkswagen AG: 7.14 million
• Hyundai Kia: 5.74 million
• Ford Motor: 5.31 million
• Nissan: 4.08 million
• Peugeot: 3.6 million
• Honda: 3.56 million
• Renault: 2.62 million
• Suzuki: 2.54 million
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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I would of never guessed honda would be so low.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 12:48 AM
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Or that Suzuki is gonna be so high.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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take what you will outta this:

US sales 2011:
http://www.usdebtclock.org/auto-sales.html

It updates like every 10 seconds.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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take what you will outta this:

US sales 2011:
http://www.usdebtclock.org/auto-sales.html

It updates like every 10 seconds.

very nice find.. Ford is NUMBER ONE!!
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
Hyundai Sonata is built in Alabama.
Ford Fusion is built in Mexico.

If you buy a Fusion, how are you supporting domestic plants and employees?

By the way, I just wanna get the most for my money, it makes no difference to me where the car is being built. For years that was Ford, but now I think Koreans might beat them by offering the most for the money.
Domestic Content.

See Pdf.

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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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Good honest discussion is great but some getting personal here...Pretty sure we are all Ford Fans here.....
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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take it for what it's worth.
brand loyalty:

Data shows that Kia currently boasts the most loyal owner body, with nearly 48 percent of buyers returning to the brand this year. Ford is second highest with 46.5 percent repeat business. Chevrolet, Hyundai, Toyota and Honda all registered around 40 percent brand loyalty, with Subaru bringing back buyers at the rate of around 36 percent.

Among luxury automakers, the highest-ranking brands were Mercedes-Benz with 34.8 percent repeat buyers, BMW at 31.7 percent, Porsche at 23 percent and Jaguar at 16 percent.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/cars-wit...al-buyers.html
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