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thanks for posting -- great example of how we need to look at the whole picture, not just part of it; when considering these complex topics, like which is REALLY "better for the environment"
Someday when I have more time on my hands (probably have to wait a few more years until I am retired) I want to do my own research on this. I have a feeling the true "carbon footprint payback period" for an electric car, considering everything including the energy to mine the materials and manufacture the car, is probably longer than its useful lifetime. Especially now, when the electricity to run it is generated using fossil fuels.
Meanwhile my horrific 4-acre rural wood-lot (which the greenies say is a crime against humanity, everyone should live in a city) probably has enough oak trees to compensate for a city block of apartments, LOL
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This 'electric' push is nonsense when it comes to the environment. So many facts are ignored. I am not going to re-hash them as the average leftist denies them or calls you names. There is no conversation to be had. Proper technology is many decades ahead, not a few years. Environmentalists always have this rush, rush, fear mongering hype. Remember VP Gore scientifically proving the flooded coastal waters by 2012?? What happened to the science?? That was 10 years ago, and here Obama buys a mansion on an island (Martha;s Vineyard). I guess he isn't too concerned. Values of real estate depreciating along the coast? I only wish.
I still think about the snow related traffic jams that occur on the highways each winter. What would happen if all these cars were electric and died on the highways? Thousands of cars dead and stranded in a bad storm. No one is thinking this through. This is real world stuff.
I also have driven through countless neighborhoods in the northeast when I lived in the Boston area and observed endless condo and apartment complexes in Florida without garages. How is this re-charging thing going to work? Extension cords? How about needing a charge during one of those monsoon thunderstorms each Floridian experiences every summer? How about 12" snowfalls when your car is out on a residential street followed by zero degree weather? The actual day to day experience of 'electric' life sounds like a nightmare. FOSSIL FUELS for the WIN!!
So many things that they are not talking about and will not work for most of us. Just trying to push us out of the ICE cars and other things to even out the wealth of the world (really wanting to make the rich even richer and push the rest of us in to poverty.)
Well Then there is the Lithium Fire Issue! Lot's a Cars Burning out there! Add in Some Magnesium Suspension Parts & You Got a Tough Fire to Put Out and I imagine the Fumes are not to Safe as Well!
On a Side Note I remember Ford Used to Send us at the Dealership Special Gloves and an Insulated Pole With Hook to Pull off Someone Getting Electrocuted every Year or So. Kind of Scary.
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Until we find a way to produce electricity via a "green" fashion it isn't green. We are still fossil fuel dependent to make electricity so how in the heck can it be considered green!!!
How's That for Green! In LA LA Land Where they Are Greenies and the Grid is about to blow! Ya lets get Some More Electric Cars! And Don't mix Us in the Cen Cal Farming Community in with them!
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My question to the DUMB MASSES in California, if all cars have to be Zero Emission by 2035 turning them from Internal Combustion to External Combustion does not make them Zero Emission. California still gets 51% of its Electricity from Fossil Fuels hence the External Combustion designation.
Lot's a Cars Burning out there! Add in Some Magnesium Suspension Parts & You Got a Tough Fire to Put Out and I imagine the Fumes are not to Safe as Well!
Redneck Tesla Edition!
