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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 11:30 PM
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Not a ZO6, a LS7 and how many of these threads are there going to be made?
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 04:47 AM
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Topic already started. Merging threads, with a link for a few hours . . .
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
We have a crapload of threads on this already.

*In before tom281 moves it*


Fixed............

And moved!
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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I'm don't consider "throwing money at it" to be in any way a break through.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tom281
Fixed............

And moved!
hahaha you bastard!
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tom281

Fixed............

And moved!
I can't catch them all!! Plus I'm at a bar/restaurant (Yard House) for lunch and not paying attention.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Merging threads too . . .
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Can you imagine what the mark up will be on the Z/28 when it comes out? sticker plus + $20k is my guess?
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Can you imagine what the mark up will be on the Z/28 when it comes out? sticker plus + $20k is my guess?
that would make it dang near $100k
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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I think something approaching $60k would be viable. This is truly a stripped tracker, so sales numbers will likely be fairly modest.

As for the looks, having had a chance to look at it a bit more, yeah, some of the details are getting dangerously too close to "trailer park" rather than track tech, an existing brand image the Camaro needs to be VERY careful to avoid at all costs.

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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
that would make it dang near $100k
That might be good news for somebody honestly wanting a Z/28 if they can wait a year or two and then get it at MSRP or at a discount if greedy dealers can't move, although that might send the wrong message to GM about developing cars like this.

I suspect however that the Z wont be produced in great numbers and it will fall victim to the idiocy of the 07 GT500s - namely well heeled individuals looking to diversify their retirement portfolio and not necessarily Camaro guys or car fans in general.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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14 years ago 2000 Cobra Rs, a similar car, sold for $54,995 MSRP. Of course when they got to dealers they sold for $10-20k more.

I could see a market for it. Some bow tie lovers will be beating down their dealers doors yelling take my money if they haven't already done so.

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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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Wether it sales or not, it's win win for the fanboys. If it sales its clearly a great car and if not it turns into a collectors item; ie 02 SS.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Still don't like it!
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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I can just feel the mullets growing in anticipation of this car.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
14 years ago 2000 Cobra Rs, a similar car, sold for $54,995 MSRP. Of course when they got to dealers they sold for $10-20k more.

I could see a market for it. Some bow tie lovers will be beating down their dealers doors yelling take my money if they haven't already done so.
Yes. I remember that Alaska received only one R for the entire state. (Cal Worthington Ford in Anchorage)

The R was roped off inside the dealership and was around 80 -90k if I recall correctly.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:24 AM
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The coming Z28 is the kind of car Ford should have built. I am amazed how much money and engineering time GM has spent on a low volume car like the Camaro. The big question I have is , what will Ford do for the Ford fans who want a stripped down Mustang capable of blowing the Z28 in the weeds ?
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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It is "easier" for GM to do this since they have a wider array of engine choices and other bits readily available and shared between car models/brands. Not really the case for Ford.
As far as a Ford response, a stripped-down GT500 with battery relocated to the rear, different gear ratio(s) in the trans./rear end, better suspension tuning, and wider tires to better harness the power would be my idea. And call it BOSS 351.
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Go Snake
The coming Z28 is the kind of car Ford should have built. I am amazed how much money and engineering time GM has spent on a low volume car like the Camaro. The big question I have is , what will Ford do for the Ford fans who want a stripped down Mustang capable of blowing the Z28 in the weeds ?
Really not like they spent much of anything engineering the ZL1 or Z28. Basically just stole parts from other vehicles and tossed them on. Only engineering was fitting the LS7. Most of the other bits came from the CTS-V parts bin which is same platform. Or stolen from the corvette
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
I think something approaching $60k would be viable. This is truly a stripped tracker, so sales numbers will likely be fairly modest.

As for the looks, having had a chance to look at it a bit more, yeah, some of the details are getting dangerously too close to "trailer park" rather than track tech, an existing brand image the Camaro needs to be VERY careful to avoid at all costs.
I wouldnt say fully stripped tracker. Still has backseats, carpet, floor mats, full dash, an uograded seats. IMO far from full strip. However, it is a camaro that weighs 300lbs than a zl1 with track oriented suspension and brakes.
How Ford responds would be interesting to see
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