Bring it GM! You ain't got nothing on me.

King Kong ain't got **** on me! *****!

 

since 2006... the camaro has been out for like 4 years already at the least!

 

I'm pretty sure they did this the first time back around 1966, so this could be the third time at least.

 

The Camaro5 boards are just plain funny. Below is a post from someone regarding the Z28 and pricing:

"The Z/28 should be the king of all Camaros but would like to see it priced in the low 40's. Let the Shelby Mustangs around here have that stupid *** $10K mark up that says "market value" put on them."

I don't even know where to start. First of all, there are SSs on the lots that sticker for over 40, so this thing is at least going to cost as much as the GT500, more if they go with the LS9. As far as market adjustment, I seem to remember MANY Camaros going off the lots with ADMs, and this is a mass production car we're talking about! Did the GT500s have some silly ADMs when they came out? Sure, but at least they were a somewhat limited production vehicle with a hand built engine. Wow.

 

Heh, thats pretty **** funny, The GT500 proved there is a market for 45k+ pony cars, thats why Dodge has one, and thats why GM is going to be making one. I'm sure the margin on these cars are considerable and its an area GM would be foolish to ignore by pricing it at the high end of the SS cars.

If they are dumb enough to do that, I predict a very short life cycle of the Z/28 unless it sells in considerable numbers (like near SS numbers, and if thats the case, why even have the SS).

 

They'll sell every one they build ... for a while...

 

The Camaro SS weighs 250 lb more than a 5.0 GT. If the GT had a the Aluminum Block 5.4L DOHC and TR6060 that would add around 100 lb to the GT. The Camaro SS already has the same weight engine (minus SC) and trans the Z28 gets so a Z28 should be about 150 lb heavier then a 2011 GT500. Its going to be a version of the LSA. At least the standard version. Bank on it. The LS9 may eventually make it into a low volume model (like the GT500 KR).

PS Ford let it be known at the 2011 intro they had plenty of power waiting for the 5.4 if Chevy brought the Z28 to market. We sometimes forget the 2011 550 bhp is still running the same pulley as the 2007 500 bhp. Look for a 600 bhp GT500 for 2012.

 

Where did you get that from?
They just made a new 5.4 engine and you think theyre gonna do more updates after a single model year.....I cant see that happening.

 

The 5.4 S/C has loads of extra capacity, the jump from 500 to 540hp involved just a bit more aggressive tuning (due to the inclusion of knock sensors), the 550hp version I believe is mostly the result of an improved exhaust system. Ford could easily top 600hp with the TVS blower sitting in the FRPP catalog all while maintaining relatively the same amount of boost that has been present with the introduction of the GT500 in 2007. the AL/AL 5.4 was just a weight reduction move.

 

The GT500 has enough power for its chasis! For Gods sake its as powerful as a Ford GT!
"IF' they are going to make any Supercharger upgrades (which i doubt) they will most likely tune the suspension (again... like four months ago) Soooooooooooo.... i dont see that happening next year or even in 2013. Maybe a Special edition GT500 but we cant know that for sure...

 

Still, am I the ONLY person who has a problem with the Z28 trumping the SS?

 

I guess. Its like saying the GT500 Cobra is trumping the GT.(Which is true.Well, sort of)

 

You've got to think back to the first gen Camaro and not the fourth gen.

And in Chevy terms a 'z' labeled package is something special. Z06, ZR1, Z28, Z51 Vette handling pack, etc.

 

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Until I see an "official" release it's still just speculation. Aren't these the same folks who said the Camaro would have an LS2?

Imma have to call ya and say if the CTS-V doesn't need 600 to "keep up" a lighter Camaro definately won't. The LSA can definately handle it's own in this arena.

LS9 is not going into anything other than the ZR1, "IF" this Z28 makes it bet the farm on an LSA.

My guess would be 49,995 (something like that) starting price. Significantly more if they add some more of the CTS-V bits like it's shocks and brakes, even more if you start adding the options. ADM's will probably be likely as well.

Yep. I love the idea.

Exactly. Aside from the 80's Z34 and Z24 debacle, and recent Z71/66 junk the Z packages (ZL1 Camaro, Z16 Chevelle, Z11 Impala, Z06 Vette etc.) were where the real performance was at. I'd still prefer ZL1 over Z28 for a "top dog" option but at this point they can call it Suzy-Q as long as I can get it with an LSA.

 

Ok, I'm with you guys on that one.


...but you left one out, the best ever, Z26 Beretta!

 

The guys love the Camaro so much that most of them will sell their brand new car just to buy a Z/28!
Crazy.

 

I've got to be honest here. I saw a white SS here with limo tint and the grey side skirts with some aftermarket black chrome wheels and it looked freakin' awesome. Not enough for me to buy one, but I liked it.

 

Exactly why some of us waited. Dunno if I'd even spring for a Z28 until I heard about whats in store on the 2014 redo. If it gets the same type of shocks as the CTS-V and Grand sport to go along with the power I'm sold. I'll do my own lightening program.

 

In the world of marketing HP trumps all, even if the car can barely handle it.

You've got to put your bow tie on, in Camaro culture the Z/28 has been the bad boy all along. The SS I believe turned into the LT then the Berlinetta while the Z/28 has been the performance flagship all along. GM somewhat muddied the waters with the SLP based SS Camaro but ask most dyed-in-the-wool F body fans and the go to car is the Z/28.

GM might could have used the ZL-1 moniker had they not trashed it with the ZL-1 Colorado (IIRC)

In Mustang speak that would be like saying someone has a problem with the GT being positioned below a Boss Mustang (the Shelby is really a whole 'nother can o' worms)

 

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