97GT03SVT

For someone claiming to be unbiased you sure talk a lot of trash about the 2015 mustang, and though I prefer the 2014 more the new mustang is a huge hit. I'd also recommend you get spellcheck I'm having a hard time reading what you are saying

tom281

Yep I get it thanks.

Stage_3

LMFAO
I try to let my feelings out Tom! lol

Von Bek

I like the hood vents a hundred times better than the Mustang ones, I'll tell you that much. I like that you get Bembos as standard. I was never too keen on the design, but this looks sleeker than the last model. It'll probably be faster then a Mustang around any given course. Still wouldn't buy one though.

Automatic 5.0

IMHO, the 2016 Camaro looks better than the 2015 Mustang, but the 2013/4 Mustang looks better than either one of them. Now performance wise, looks like the Camaro will be one up on the Mustang. We all knew that day would come.

David Young

Camaro gets better, Mustang gets better. We all win

SpectreH

RedCandy5.0

I think they did a nice job. Biggest complaints were weight and interior and they took care of both. Its a great modern interpretation of the original. I think the front end is better than the Mustangs interpretation. You know its a Camaro coming at you. With a few mods this car will be a monster.

Rodsmustang

It's to bad that it takes 40 grand to get a v8 in a muscle car these days. I remember when I purchased a 1990 mustang GT brand new for 13,500. I bet these Camaros will be 40 plus for the SS.

mustangfan410

The SS will probably be closer to 50 grand if you want the magnetic ride and all the other toys.

bt4

Amen to both points. Both Camaro and Mustang are much better cars today, and much closer to being sports cars, than ever before. Having said that, both have abandoned their original niche of sporty-looking, affordable, coupes. A big part of their success and popularity was that just about anyone with a job could afford to buy one. I question whether either will see the kind of volume and popularity they enjoyed in their prime. The last time Mustang sold over 100,000 units in a single year was 2007, the Gen5 Camaro came close one year, but never broke the 100K mark.

I agree with RodsMustang that it really stings to have to fork over $40k for a V8, and I suspect MustangFan may be right; that with all the goodies the new SS could climb toward $50K. Both cars are better than ever, but a well equipped GT Premium, or optioned up SS is going to be farther out reach for many more fans of the two cars than ever before.

Coyote5-0

You might want to consult an inflation calculator. That's $24,244.43 in today's dollars. Add almost double the horsepower, 4 wheel disc brakes, ABS, 6 speed, advanced traction control, multiple airbags, increased reliability, build quality and much more...the $30-35k spent on today's V8 Mustang is still a really good deal. I doubt the V8 Camaro will not be available for under $40k.

Rodsmustang

With tax, doc fee's, and registration, I think it will be closer to 40 grand. If you get it optioned out closer to 50 grand. That's a lot of money however you look at it. At least interest rates are down.

Coyote5-0

how much was the Mustang in 1990 after tax, doc fees, and registration?

Rodsmustang

closer to 15,000

bt4

You might want to consult a real-wage graph.

The price automobiles is due in part, to your point, inflation, but there are also incremental increases due to government regulations, (which lead to higher mfg cost, and higher development costs). This can lead to the price of cars often outpacing inflation. In 1965 the base Mustang cost $2427, over 50 years, the base 2015 Mustang adjusted for inflation should sell for $18,326. (Of course it doesn't--for a number of reasons other than inflation.) (Source Fortune)

Real wages on the other hand haven't budged in decades. In fact they have been stagnant since the beginnings of the 90's. Today's corporate sector worker has actually lost nearly 3% in wages since the economic downtown. (Source Economic Policy Institute)

I don't disagree with your point that the Mustang (and Camaro) still represent fair value, based on performance and content. No one is disputing that cars are better today than they have ever been--that is a truism. What is also true is that not as many average wage earners can afford to buy a $40k Mustang. (I have yet to see a V8 less than $41K--not saying that they are not out there--just saying I have yet to see one. I have seen several 50th Anniversary editions at $61 and $62K)

(BTW: top corporate officers on the other hand have seen significant wage increases over the last two decades. Of course, they are not likely Mustang or Camaro buyers!)

Coyote5-0

Don't get me wrong, I hate the 1%ers and corporate greed race-to-the-bottom mentality today. I know inflation isn't the sole reason for the increase in costs of these cars. It's a big part of the reason, but things you mentioned are true as well. You can get a base GT now for $32k. The base GT has a fair amount of standard equipment that were options or didn't exist on the 90 GT.

Rodsmustang

I agree with both of your statements. To bad I couldn't get a brand new 90' GT for 13,500 today.

Glenn

yea its to fat and short and ye still can't see out of it and it sits to high and that rear end is worse looking that the last year..... oh yea and that step over getting in and out of that car is to much.

Coyote5-0

oh wow, I just noticed the epic body panel gap on the rear quarter panel. Who ruins a quarter panel by making it two pieces? notice the horizontal line