13 Camaro 1LE aiming for Boss 302
3/27/12, 01:55 PM
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13 Camaro 1LE aiming for Boss 302
What - no "simulations" done yet? 
2013 Chevrolet Camaro 1LE a Mustang Boss 302 Killer?
The Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 was thought to be the obvious rival for the Ford Mustang Boss 302, as history would have shown. General Motors has thought otherwise, deciding that their ultimate handling pony car shall be the 1LE, which will sell for under $40,000 and offer a claimed 1g of handling.
This Camaro is similar to how the Vorvette Grand Sport was designed. Engineers have taken some good bits from the range-topping ZL1, and put them into the 1SS and 2SS models to make the 1LE. This includes things like a transmission cooler, short-throw shifter, suspension geometry, fuel system components, 10-spoke wheels, and steering wheel.
Other changes that separate the 1LE to other V-8 Camaros include a switch to monotube rear shocks, upgraded axle shafts for better cornering, uprated front and rear swaybars and a strut-bar. Outside, stylists have forgone a gaudy body kit and instead offer a matte-black hood, front lip spoiler and trunk spoiler. Everything else is plain old 1SS or 2SS Camaro, but only comes with a manual transmission (which will probably change much like the ZL1.)
All these changes are well and good, but may not be enough to dominate the Boss 302 from its track day, pony car pedestal. There doesn’t seem to be any real weight-savings attempts on the car, something that seems to be essential for a serious track day special. Also there aren’t any engine tweaks to produce more power like the Ford as well. The only thing it seems to do better with is a cheaper price than the Mustang, which starts at $42,995.
Whether it offers a better performance than the Boss 302 will remain unseen until a comparison can be done.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/...#ixzz1qLgIurvh
2013 Chevrolet Camaro 1LE a Mustang Boss 302 Killer?
The Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 was thought to be the obvious rival for the Ford Mustang Boss 302, as history would have shown. General Motors has thought otherwise, deciding that their ultimate handling pony car shall be the 1LE, which will sell for under $40,000 and offer a claimed 1g of handling.
This Camaro is similar to how the Vorvette Grand Sport was designed. Engineers have taken some good bits from the range-topping ZL1, and put them into the 1SS and 2SS models to make the 1LE. This includes things like a transmission cooler, short-throw shifter, suspension geometry, fuel system components, 10-spoke wheels, and steering wheel.
Other changes that separate the 1LE to other V-8 Camaros include a switch to monotube rear shocks, upgraded axle shafts for better cornering, uprated front and rear swaybars and a strut-bar. Outside, stylists have forgone a gaudy body kit and instead offer a matte-black hood, front lip spoiler and trunk spoiler. Everything else is plain old 1SS or 2SS Camaro, but only comes with a manual transmission (which will probably change much like the ZL1.)
All these changes are well and good, but may not be enough to dominate the Boss 302 from its track day, pony car pedestal. There doesn’t seem to be any real weight-savings attempts on the car, something that seems to be essential for a serious track day special. Also there aren’t any engine tweaks to produce more power like the Ford as well. The only thing it seems to do better with is a cheaper price than the Mustang, which starts at $42,995.
Whether it offers a better performance than the Boss 302 will remain unseen until a comparison can be done.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/...#ixzz1qLgIurvh
Last edited by cdynaco; 3/27/12 at 01:56 PM.
3/27/12, 03:07 PM
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To me, this fits right between the Track Pack GT and the Boss 302. They really needed to offer some of these things in the car. I don't suspect its going to out do the Boss though.
3/28/12, 12:17 PM
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i agree. From reading, it appears the "1LE" is mostly (if not all) bolt-ons. still interested in seeing the final product!
3/28/12, 01:42 PM
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The 1LE (a rather forgettable nomenclature) does seem to reside somewhere between an optioned up 5.0 GT and the Boss. Perhaps good they didn't name it a Z-28 because it doesn't sound like its quite up to that level (Boss), mostly on a lack of more motor and a lack of less car (weight reduction).
However, I wouldn't say the 1LE, given what we know of it, is a write off either. The ZL1-based chassis mods are impressive and the car certainly will be one for at least the GT 5.0 to contend with and the Boss not to simply ignore if there's a good driver behind the wheel.
However, I wouldn't say the 1LE, given what we know of it, is a write off either. The ZL1-based chassis mods are impressive and the car certainly will be one for at least the GT 5.0 to contend with and the Boss not to simply ignore if there's a good driver behind the wheel.
3/28/12, 10:02 PM
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Well its actually a rather storied name if your a GM guy. When I was a younger lad, if you were serious about tracking your car, the 1LE was the package to get, the IROCZ and the Z28 was for poseurs.
People knock the 3rd gen cars, but the 1LE Camaros were the Boss 302s of thier day, Niether Ford nor Chrysler had anything that could seriously compete with the exception of the Saleen Mustangs.
Or really frigg'n soft Goodyear second gen supercar tires. If GM is using the same compound Ford is using on the GT500, I'll be mightly impressed with the ZL1 and the 1LE, if they are using a softer compound tire, then I wont be all that impressed. (caveat: still digging the mag shocks on the ZL1 though, really wish Ford could have snagged that and a watts link for the 2013 cars).
People knock the 3rd gen cars, but the 1LE Camaros were the Boss 302s of thier day, Niether Ford nor Chrysler had anything that could seriously compete with the exception of the Saleen Mustangs.
Or really frigg'n soft Goodyear second gen supercar tires. If GM is using the same compound Ford is using on the GT500, I'll be mightly impressed with the ZL1 and the 1LE, if they are using a softer compound tire, then I wont be all that impressed. (caveat: still digging the mag shocks on the ZL1 though, really wish Ford could have snagged that and a watts link for the 2013 cars).
Last edited by bob; 3/28/12 at 10:05 PM.
No matter the outcome in a head to head performance test, that was funny.
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