I have finally decided to go place my order tomorrow, I will be shopping around a couple of dealerships.
I was wondering all you guys who have placed your order for a few hundred dollars up or under Invoice, are you on some kindaa ford plan, A, X or whatever.
I do not have any such plans but I do not want to pay more than the invoice, do you think its possible to strike a deal with the dealers at this time for invoice.

FYI: All you guys who are in Southern Cal area, there is a mustang show tomorrow at Santa Margarita Ford (there will be an 05 for display)

Thanks in advance

 

I don't think you'll get it for invoice. The salesman will make nothing and the dealer will only make the 2% holdback.

For a brand new car, I don't think they'll sell it for that.

Most here have paid around invoice + $500. I think that is a good price for a brand new car.

Sorry to burst your bubble. You could try though.

BTW, take pics if you can of the 05!

 

I dont have any x,y, or a plan, and I got my dealer to agree to $200 over invoice. So far I've only heard of one person without a plan getting $300 under invoice, dont know here he was located though. So, it is possible, just shop around, work with fleet and internet managers.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=500569
I posted a thread on stangnet about this topic. Might help some

good luck

 

Ok, how much should I pay if I don't want the salesman to get any money, just the dealership?

 

Thanks a lot for the info guys, I will try to get the pics if I can make it to the mustang show tomorrow (not sure though, football sunday)

 

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=4856

Well, then can you ask this guy here, and let us know. Thanks

 

Can you explain what you mean by this statement?

 

Can you explain what you mean by this statement? [/b][/quote]
Don't salesmen eat too??

 

There isn't a way to buy a car where the salesman doesnt get anything, but if you go through the fleet manager or a internet manager, they make less off each car than the regular salesman do. Just start calling every ford dealership around and put the internet peoples quotes against each other, this is the least stressful for you and normally gets you the best possible deal.

ps. be sure to get the quote your comfortable with in writing

 

Trust me, the dealership porobably gets enough money, salesmen seem to come and go around my area.

 

no salesman in his right mind will pull the trigger on a deal where he does not make a cent.

(waiting for kevin's rant )

 

Trust me, the dealership porobably gets enough money, salesmen seem to come and go around my area. [/b][/quote]
And why do you think that is? Soon the dealership will be gone, too. There will be a new one, where you don't know anyone and they won't give a hoot about you, either. We'll see what great service you get then. Hopefully none.

 

And why do you think that is? Soon the dealership will be gone, too. There will be a new one, where you don't know anyone and they won't give a hoot about you, either. We'll see what great service you get then. Hopefully none. [/b][/quote]
Are you crazy? Hey try buying a car in my area and you will find out. I don't know about Lancaster but salesmen are expendable to dealers here. I personally know many salesmen that go from dealer to dealer trying to make a living. Dealers here are making money hand over foot and treat their staff like cattle. They could care less about keeping good salesmen.

I also find it funny that you mentioned service!!!

Guess what, dealership owners, not salesmen, from both GM and Ford in my area have told me they won;t service a car not bought at their dealership, regardless of what GM or Ford tells them what to do. See if I care if they go out of business.

 

Anyone who thinks dealers and salespeople shouldn't make money, or thinks that you should grind the dealer sales staff down to the last bone, please include your occupation in your profile so that when I am in the market for your product I can grind you and insist that your employer not pay you while I am doing business with him.
Thank you.

 

i wanted to place my order but since i gotta wait till spring i might be able to strike a pretty good deal maybe even rebated cuz it will be around the time the new verts will be released. if not then ohh well i gotta pay whatever but im goin down w/o a fight

 

I think you are misunderstanding my first comment. I was making a sarcastic comment and should have elaborated what I meant a litte better.

"Trust me, the dealership probably gets enough money, salesmen seem to come and go around my area."

I meant that I can't believe this poster didn't want his money to go to the guy who deserves it the most. Like I said salesman are treated like cattle at my local dealers and the dealership owners here are scum of the earth. What I meant was the dealer is already seeing his/her share of the profit from a vehicle and that shafting the salesman out of their money is a no-no. If you lived here trust me you wouldn't care less if any of our larger dealers rot in the ground.

 

When I say I do not want to pay more than invoice, its not that I don't want the dealership or the sales people to make money. I know that they do make money even when selling for invoice. I am in the automotive industry indirectly and know that the auto market is such that you don't have to pay MSRP for a production car.
Just the fact that I don't want to wait for a few more months for the car, I am willing to pay invoice.
I believe in people making money but not at my expense, so I ain't going down with out a fight.

 

My comment was not directed to you, but to some who's attitudes I dislike. Thank you for clarifying your statement though, as I did misunderstand your thoughts. Thank you.
I am very unhappy that there are horrible dealers in the business. It continues to undermine the efforts of those that try to improve the experience.

 

Do you think that when you a hamburger at a fast food joint someone is not making money at your expense? I don't know what kind of work you do, but whatever it is your company survives by selling goods and services for more than what it costs it.

You shouldn't have to pay MSRP, let alone any markup, but just get a fair price and be happy. Leave a little on the table. Besides, what's a couple hundred bucks when you're willing to pay 25 large or more for a car?

 

I am sorry, but you are mistaken. That is part of my point. The dealership does not make a profit if they sell the car at invoice and give the customer the factory rebates. Profit is defined simply as money made after selling a product and paying all expenses. There is NO money made after paying the bills when a dealer sells a car at invoice.
When I buy something from you I want to pay your cost of that product, cause I don't want you making money on me, and I'll be happy to fight with you about it for as much time as possible, so you lose as much money on me as possible. Think about working all day, and not getting paid. Working for free. I think you should experience it.