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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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I am engaged to a girl who is a sister of a Ford employee. We are getting married on March 12, 2005. I plan on putting down around $8000.00 on a Mustang and I want to use her Ford family discount plan as soon as possible. Probably before we get married. I understand that it will have to be in her name. What do you guys and gals think? I'm trying to figure every angle to cover myself and my investment. I aslo understand that a Ford employee can only use is "PIN" for the discount a couple of times a year. Also what if it was her cousin and not her brother? Please help with input.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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The X Plan is Ford's Friends and Family discount. In order to receive this discount, a Ford employee must generate a PIN. I believe each Ford employee can generate 4 PIN's per year (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Bring your PIN to the dealer and you will get the X Plan price.

If the car is bought under your fiance's name, I think you may be eligible for a larger discount, since she's the sister of an employee...but I'm not sure.

Does anyone know if a Ford employee's sibling is eligible for the A Plan?
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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With her sister being a Ford employee, she should be eligable for A plan,
which is 2% BELOW factory invoice. She gets 4 A plans and 4 X plans each year. My sister's husband is a Ford employee, and I've used the A plan, so your fiance should have no problem.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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How do they check the relationship to ford employees for the plans?
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Pony_stile@June 24, 2004, 1:44 PM
How do they check the relationship to ford employees for the plans?
DNA testing and urine sample (just for the heck of it)
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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My grandfather got me his Z-plan witch is awsome
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Is there a plan that 1st cousins count get any discount?
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Pony_stile@June 24, 2004, 1:18 PM
Is there a plan that 1st cousins count get any discount?
you arent eligible for A-plan(2% under invoice), that is only for immediate family

you can however get x-plan (2% over invoice) which can be given to anybody by a ford employee

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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There is some information in the FAQ section of this forum, and also you can read a bunch about the X plan on the internet. Here is one such link:

Ford Plan Information
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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To save a click, I believe that the following answers your question should your wife decide to get the car using her brother's employment relationship w/Ford (wow .. what a mouthful). Her brother will need to generate the PIN, and if I read this correctly she should be able to get the A Plan pricing. You could also try the X Plan angle, but this would not save you as much.

Who is Eligible?
New Vehicle Purchase A/Z PIN Requirements:
As an A/Z Plan sponsor, you must obtain a Personal Identification Number (PIN) for each transaction you sponsor. Each PIN will be valid only for one approved purchase or lease. The customer's name and social security number are required when you call. To request a new PIN call 1-800-348-7709 or click on Generate PIN to the left

Eligible Relatives:
Spouse, Parents, Spouse's Parents, Sons (including step and in-law), Daughters (including step and in-law), Sisters (including step and in-law), Brothers (including step and in-law) and Grandchildren.

Relatives NOT Eligible:
Grandparents, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts, Nephews, Nieces and all others not listed as eligible relatives.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Pony_stile@June 24, 2004, 11:44 AM
How do they check the relationship to ford employees for the plans?
Have your fiance's brother call Ford at 1-800-348-7709 . He will have to give them information on himself (as the employee), and also the name, address and partial SSN for his sister (your fiance). He will then be given a PIN that you and your fiance can use at the dealership. Whew !
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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And... if I read your post correctly, and understand all the family relationships correctly, perhaps the title of the post should be changed to: "A-Plan Questions"
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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This is way off topic, I understand... but this is the perfect thread to make my plea. I/we need someone who either works at Ford or knows someone who does (hence me asking this in a post about x-plan) who can finally answer our questions about the wheels on the '05. Somebody at Ford has to know at this point whether the wheels from the previous Mustangs will fit the '05. My guess is that the show cars, test cars and even the mules that we have seen have the same bolt pattern, offset, etc. as the ones that will be made come job 1... why wouldn't they, right? Seems to me that someone at Ford could easily find this out, and if so, find out the numbers we need. Either way, I read on here that they are going to be doing a pre-production run of the asembly line... making a certain amount of Mustangs to test before going into full production September 7th. Obviously the wheels on those cars would be the same as the production cars. So, maybe someone at Ford can find that out before job 1 at least, so those of us who want to order aftermarket wheels will be able to ahead of time and have them there when we get our cars. Please... anybody?
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Another way to get the X plan price would be through your employer if they are a "preferred supplier" to Ford. Check with your Human Resource dept.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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The other way is "just ask for it'
whether you have a PIN or not.

Its 2% over invoice...they'll still make money.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Boomer@June 24, 2004, 5:38 PM
The other way is "just ask for it'
whether you have a PIN or not.

Its 2% over invoice...they'll still make money.
Boomer, you make a good point. There are ppl who posted out here who claim to have gotten the car very near to the invoice amount (+/-). More power to em ! Wow .. just wish I could have swung something like that
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by os121+June 24, 2004, 7:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (os121 @ June 24, 2004, 7:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Boomer@June 24, 2004, 5:38 PM
The other way is "just ask for it'
whether you have a PIN or not.

Its 2% over invoice...they'll still make money.
Boomer, you make a good point. There are ppl who posted out here who claim to have gotten the car very near to the invoice amount (+/-). More power to em ! Wow .. just wish I could have swung something like that [/b][/quote]
It can be done. Don't appear anxious to buy it (like calling every day to see if orders are being taken, etc.). Shop around, stand your ground, walk away and stay away. If he calls you, you got him. If he doesn't, stop by in a couple weeks, try again, if still not, walk away again. You might casually mention that you are looking at something else in the same class and wanted to give him one more shot At selling you the mustang before you buy the other. etc, etc, etc, etc.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by gotmy05@June 24, 2004, 11:56 AM
My grandfather got me his Z-plan witch is awsome
Ask your sales person/Grandfather/or person on the phone at Ford with whom you give the PIN number to about an extra $1000.00 towards the purchase of your new ride. I recieved this extra $1000.00 when I purchased my '04 Mach 1 at the end of April. My grandfather didn't even know, my sales person informed me. (Not sure on the time limit for such a discount.)
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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Okay, I'll be the evil one here....any of you ford employees willing to sell a pin for A-plan or X-plan? Some of us don't have any family on the inside!!




-Darth
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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Marrying her for her discount plan.. tsk tsk tsk.. :nono:




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