2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old 10/10/04, 02:09 PM
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If I get an X plan number is there a site I can go to to get pricing under X plan? How else do I figure X plan pricing. Also am I correct when I say under X plan pricing the dealer is made whole? If so why do some not :scratch: want to sell under the Xplan?
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I would like to find out the procedure as well. The Company I work for has an "X" plan fleet number. Would I be able to purchase an 05 Mustang through this program directly through the dealer or would my employer have to buy it first and then I buy it from my employer?

I would appreciate any help.
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There is a thread here which gives detail to the subject....
But It is my understanding that dealers don't have to honor X-Plan.
They make more money that way.... Although I found one that does.
As far as pricing.... Consider for a loaded GT X-Plan to be around 25 or 26.
That's what I am paying for an X-Plan GT.
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another idea to get the best deal is find a dealer that will do $500 over invoice, and then sign up for AQHA to receive a $500 incentive from ford. this will put you at invoice. which i think is better than x plan pricing.
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X-plan is below Invoice.
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didnt know that. Thanks for the correction
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Nice pic of an invoice showing invoice, retail, x/a pricing on a GT here:

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=6896
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Can you tell me what AQHA means?
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American Quarter Horse Association. Brad posted some info on it a few days ago. the thread name is Save $500 on your next ford, or somethin along those lines.
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X-plan is below Invoice
X-plan = Invoice -2% +4% +$150

So: Mustang GT Deluxe is invoiced at $22,288 and MSRP is $24,370

22288 x .02 = 445.76. 22288- 445.76= 21842.24x 1.04 =22715.93 +$150 = 22865.93 (X plan price)

In this example X-plan is 577.93 more than invoice and $1504.07 below MSRP.
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If you go to the Ford Partner web site (http://www.fordpartner.com), select Mustang under Vehicles & Pricing and the click on the FordDirect link, you'll link to the Ford Direct website in X-plan mode. You'll see both the MSRP as well as the X-Plan prices. The only downside is that the '05 isn't listed yet.





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Originally posted by AFBLUE@October 10, 2004, 4:02 PM
X-plan is below Invoice
X-plan = Invoice -2% +4% +$150

So: Mustang GT Deluxe is invoiced at $22,288 and MSRP is $24,370

22288 x .02 = 445.76. 22288- 445.76= 21842.24x 1.04 =22715.93 +$150 = 22865.93 (X plan price)

In this example X-plan is 577.93 more than invoice and $1504.07 below MSRP.
I see this quote on how to figure X plan all the time on this site. This is wrong! Go to the FAQ's and read up on it. This is the info I sent Brad and Dan on how to figure it. But basically, it is A plan price + 4% + $150. This is usually within $50 of invoice. The good thing about X plan is that you don't have to haggle price and the dealer can't add their ripoff dealership fees to the price.
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Originally posted by 9mmBullitt+October 10, 2004, 8:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (9mmBullitt @ October 10, 2004, 8:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-AFBLUE@October 10, 2004, 4:02 PM
X-plan is below Invoice
X-plan = Invoice -2% +4% +$150

So: Mustang GT Deluxe is invoiced at $22,288 and MSRP is $24,370

22288 x .02 = 445.76. 22288- 445.76= 21842.24x 1.04 =22715.93 +$150 = 22865.93 (X plan price)

In this example X-plan is 577.93 more than invoice and $1504.07 below MSRP.
I see this quote on how to figure X plan all the time on this site. This is wrong! Go to the FAQ's and read up on it. This is the info I sent Brad and Dan on how to figure it. But basically, it is A plan price + 4% + $150. This is usually within $50 of invoice. The good thing about X plan is that you don't have to haggle price and the dealer can't add their ripoff dealership fees to the price.[/b][/quote]
You're correct. And for those that disagree, here's a screenshot from the Ford Partner website:

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I see this quote on how to figure X plan all the time on this site. This is wrong! Go to the FAQ's and read up on it. This is the info I sent Brad and Dan on how to figure it. But basically, it is A plan price + 4% + $150. This is usually within $50 of invoice. The good thing about X plan is that you don't have to haggle price and the dealer can't add their ripoff dealership fees to the price.
How can you definitively say this is wrong if one doesn't know the A-plan price?

If the A-plan price is 2% below the invoice price then the above would be correct.

This all started when TonyB84 said at http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...hl=a-plan&st=20

So, now that we know the prices we can calculate the x-plan price. I know that x-plan is 4% above a-plan, which is 2% above invoice.
IndyStang then posts,
A plan used to be 2% below the invoice "dealer price". Ford repaid the dealer for the 2% that was lost.
However in another post, Kevin120 said that A-plan was roughly equal to dealer price which is about 4% below invoice prices. If this is true then X plan would be roughly (invoice x .96 x 1.04) +$150.

On the 04 Mach 1 the X-plan varied between + or- $35 of the invoice.

Bottom line is until someone actually provide the no kidding A-Plan prices, people are only able to make estimates of the X-plan prices.

I searched for the A-plan price on the forum but came up with nothing specific.

If some one has the A-plan prices please post, so we can end this confusion.
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My understanding is that A plan is 2% below invoice w/holdback. X plan is A plan plus 4%. The formula is as follows....

Invoice plus holdback, minus 2%, plus 4%.

In most cases this is approximately $500- $700 above invoice w/holdback. That is why many on this forum have gotten $500.00 over invoice agreements. They're basically getting X plan price.
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I'm not sure if this is correct, but if you do the math, "A" plan pricing should be 4.2915% below invoice. I used the prices listed in this thread[/QUOTE]http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=6896[QUOTE]
invioce 25049.55- 4.2915%= 23974.55(A plan price)
for X plan use A plan + 4% + 150 or
23974.55 x 1.04 = 24933.53 + 150 = 25083.53
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Sorry AFBLUE but your calculations are incorrect. I have my order confirmation sheet with full pricing right here.

Invoice 24796.55
MSRP 26815
A/Z/D plan 23729.55
X-plan 24828.73

X-plan is definitely A plan(23729.55) +4%(949.18) +$150=24828.73. Do the math, it works.

It is not invoice(24796.55)-2%(495.93)+4%(979.22)+$150=25429.84. The math doesn't work.

In most cases this is approximately $500- $700 above invoice w/holdback. That is why many on this forum have gotten $500.00 over invoice agreements. They're basically getting X plan price.
This is not correct. X-plan is much less than $500-$700 over invoice. This is my second X-plan purchase and both have been less than $100 over invoice.
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Thanks Mellow Yellow! I have purchased several cars on X plan and have the proof of how the deal is done, as have you. If others want to believe otherwise then have at it. I know the facts!
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Ordered yesterday and fleet mgr said xplan was dlr inv minus $100.00 and that would put it at $27,367.11!
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For X-Plan? Thats way too high ...


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