2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by PonyLover@May 26, 2005, 5:13 PM
You ordered in March. If you have been on this site long you new that the GT was hard to get. You are pointing the blame at Ford. You should be pointing the blame at your dealer. He knows how many cars he is going to get. If he is only getting 15 why does he take 25 orders?

If you are a Ford person, if you like/love the Mustang, why are you looking at other cars?

I can understand someone who has been waiting since Oct, Nov, Dec. since they ordered being a little upset. But then again did there dealer take more orders than they can fill.

I think the only mistake Ford made was not putting a limit on the orders they would accept from each dealer. If Ford said blank dealer was only allocated 10 Mustangs for 2005 then once they recveived 10 orders from said dealership no more would be accepted.

There should be a web site to see your dealers order limit and how many they have recvd.
If you are a true Mustang lover you wait for the 06.
Waiting six months for a 2006. The first three months are due to they are not even building the 2006's yet.

Exactly my point.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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I really understand everyones frustration. Its like a death I guess. Many times we strive to blame everyone and everthing including God. Same situation here I guess with people not getting their 05's but in reality the person to blame in most cases is the dealer and only the dealer. They would take a sale rather than you go to another dealer. That way even though they know they have exceeded the amount of Mustangs they can receive they hope that when 06 rolls around you will reorder that 06. I cant remember hearing one person saying that he went to order an 05 but his dealer said that he cannot receive anymore 05's. Has anyone else?
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Its like a company selling tickets to a football game without knowing how many seats are availeble. You going to have many angy fans not having a seat in the stadium and many more not getting in because its full.
The airlines do that everyday. It's their way of making sure the plane is as full as possible for every flight. But at least they usually compinsate you if you get bumped.

IMO I think Ford should allow anyone who had a confirmed order in place for an '05, and got bumped, the chance to roll it to an '06 at the same price level they were at. Plus for those that choose to do so, their orders should be entered into the banks at the highest priority, or a "special" priority, to get them produced as ASAP. To me, that only seems fair. But in the real world, what seems fair is not always the way business is done :notnice:
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Everyone saying issues are the dealers fault not Ford's well that's BS. The dealers are Ford I don't care how the structure is. What ever issue someone has at the dealer, factory, corporate, etc they're all Ford issues.

The bottom line is a lot of us went through a lot of pain getting or not getting this car. Ford could have done a much better job at both the dealer level and at the factory. Even though I have my car I shouldn't have had to go through the ordeal I went through. Ford needs to know that and needs to understand that issues need to be addressed.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Well I just got off the phone with my salesman and I am still c/u, which I knew before I called thanks to the ERL wench. But I did find out a little info that I doubt is anything surprising. I was informed that the engine and manual tranny for the GT is in short supply and hence is the only reason for my order not being built yet. I asked if there was any chance it would be built and they didnt know but they said dont give out hope as it isnt cancelled yet. The woman told me it is a temporary thing and should still get built. Who the heck really knows. I got this info from a more reliable source than my dealer. it came directly from Ford and the woman wasnt supposed to tell me anything but she was slow and decided to help me. So Im just gonna wait a few more weeks and see what happens.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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it never ceases to amaze me when i see people on here with their angry "i hate you ford!!" posts. if youve got a problem with a dealer...ok. i mean im sorry that you didnt get your mustang. you have everyone here's sympathy. but i hate seeing "NOW im gonna get a 350z/eclipse/vette/whatever!" do you really expect most of us to be able to relate to that? if i got screwed out of a mustang i would find another dealership and go through the process again.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Anyway you look at it they are only building 190,000 cars and 200,000 people want to get one. So some are going to be perterbed.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by StangFan@May 26, 2005, 3:55 PM
it never ceases to amaze me when i see people on here with their angry "i hate you ford!!" posts. if youve got a problem with a dealer...ok. i mean im sorry that you didnt get your mustang. you have everyone here's sympathy. but i hate seeing "NOW im gonna get a 350z/eclipse/vette/whatever!" do you really expect most of us to be able to relate to that? if i got screwed out of a mustang i would find another dealership and go through the process again.

it would make my day to see the shoe on the other foot and then see reaction----- :scratch:
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Old May 26, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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I, too was extremely po'd at the lack of info on my original GT vert order, c/u since 1/17. As I did my homework and gathered more information through sites like this one, it became apparent that I would have to circumvent my local dealer in my quest for a Mustang. I really like my local dealer, and have purchased 6 assorted new vehicles from him since 1997 and also sent many customers his way (who are also satisfied). The problem is, he is a small dealer who sells a lot of trucks, and is in a region that doesn't get a good allocation of Mustangs to begin with. That being said, I ended up finding Gary Yeomans Ford in Daytona. I placed my order on 5/18, was serialzed on 5/19, and have been assigned a build week of 6/13. This whole deal costs a bit more with some extra fees (drop ship, etc.), but my basis is MSRP and I will have a car. The moral of the story is that a little bit of work went a long way with me. I wish everyone out there the best of luck with their orders; hopefully the build out period after the last '05 order comes in will see some old c/u orders get serialized.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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sorry to hear about your gripe with your dealer, but what ever you do dont get a nissan. the vette, ya that would be ok, and the M3 if you have the extra 45 grand for a used one layin around i say go for it for sure. i know i would if i could afford the extra cash for my car payment. there is no substitute for BMW fit and finish and performance.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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First off, I didn't go into the dealership demanding anything. I went in, asked if they honor X-Plan, they said they did, and I placed the f'ing order. I never demanded the X-Plan or said I wouldn't buy the car without it. I would pay MSRP for it, but I'm not paying a markup. Not when, in 3 months, the 06's hit the streets the 05s value goes down to what it should be for a used car.

Secondly. do you know how hard it is to find a car with the specifications that you want on a lot. I'm sure many of you do, because you've tried looking in your frustration. In 2002, when I got my True Blue, I wanted Tropic Green. They stopped making 02's in that color in December/January. So I settled for my #2 color (I ordered my 2002). I am not going to settle for another color again. I want a Satin Silver and that's what I'm getting, if I get an 05 or an 06.

Lastly, I am not trading in the 98 Malibu or 05 GT, so there is no trade-in for them to screw me on. They changed the priority on me. How do I know? My sister used to work there, and has friends there. They checked, and they moved people who ordered after me to before me so they could get their car at MSRP. I would have paid MSRP, except they know that I'm a CPA and into Business Law and wouldn't be able to back out of our signed agreement at X-Plan price. So they made sure I wouldn't be built. If they had come to me and said, we can't give you X-Plan, but we'll give it to you at MSRP and throw in a little freebie or two, I would have female doged a little, but ultimately would have gone for it. The difference between X-Plan and MSRP is not enought for me to worry about. It's HOW they went about doing it, assuming I wouldn't go for it, that pissed me off. Did anyone even read about the whole EXTENDED WARRANTY flap? FoMoCo customer service didn't want to have anything to do about it, even though the warranty is a genuine FORD warranty. They don't know how to handle customers. You can make a few people happy, but that won't keep you in business. You can try to make as many people happy now as you can, and the others you can try to smooth things over with to try to keep them as loyal customers, but neither Ford nor the dealership has done either here. A little bit goes a long way, but doing nothing gets you nowhere.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by JustFord0099@May 26, 2005, 8:49 PM
sorry to hear about your gripe with your dealer, but what ever you do dont get a nissan. the vette, ya that would be ok, and the M3 if you have the extra 45 grand for a used one layin around i say go for it for sure. i know i would if i could afford the extra cash for my car payment. there is no substitute for BMW fit and finish and performance.
After I've calmed down a bit, I may get the 2006 Stang GT.....the salesman told me to let him know in 2 weeks that I want to get the 2006, and they'll give me a 10 priority. If I get the M3, it'll be new and a coupe. I really don't need another convertible, and if I get a 2006, I'm getting a coupe, not a convertible like my 2005 order was.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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May I suggest chamomile tea and Enya music
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Old May 26, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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As much as I hate to reply to this post, I feel I must. One point we all need to remember is that these dealerships are all INDEPENDENT dealerships that are NOT owned by Ford. Ford SELLS a car to the dealership. What the dealership does beyond that is out of Ford's control. Is Ford concerned about less that honorable dealers? I would like to think so. But there is only so much that Ford can do. Youo got the short end of the stick from the dealership on both your 05 order and your previous extended warranty. That warranty is something sold by the dealership. Yes, it is a Ford warranty, but I think all that means is that it is to be honored at any Ford dealership. Your real beef should be with the dealership.
On the other hand, Ford is not clean in all this either. The allocation problem is a real mess, and I doubt it gets much better for the 06 MY. My car was built the week of 4 APril, but not shipped unitl 2 May. This is not the dealers fault. That is strictly Ford's fault.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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I acknowledge that I ordered late. But at this point in time, I would appreciate some advice from the dealer; either stick with the 05 or order an 06. Just my opinion. If any of you have this experience, I would appreciate any advice.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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I ordered mine under the X plan 12/31/04

No hassle from the dealer, priority code 10 all the way.
It weas delivered 3/31/05

A friend ordered in MI 12/15/04 GT coupe and it was selivered X plan 2 weeks ago.

Look to the dealer!
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Ordering late has nothing to do with it, Ford should be able to tell you the moment you order your car when it will be built let a lone if it will be built. We order in Febuary to get our car in good weather, many cars and every convertible were ordered and built after our order, the system is a mess!
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