Is this a valid ticket socal pd input please
7/6/07, 12:15 PM
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Is this a valid ticket socal pd input please
I got a vc 21453(a) photo enforcement.
I was driving 15 mph turning into where (the green arrow) as indicated and there were cars turning left on the north south bound. There are no signs that say no turn on red. How did I get this ticket and is it valid
How can I upload the pic? I have a 400kb pic that I can't upload.
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I was driving 15 mph turning into where (the green arrow) as indicated and there were cars turning left on the north south bound. There are no signs that say no turn on red. How did I get this ticket and is it valid
How can I upload the pic? I have a 400kb pic that I can't upload.
thanks
7/6/07, 01:26 PM
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http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...nt=ticket2.jpg
failure to stop when turning. I guess i did a california roll. I am going 10 to 15 mph. very slow.
failure to stop when turning. I guess i did a california roll. I am going 10 to 15 mph. very slow.
7/6/07, 01:57 PM
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http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...nt=ticket2.jpg
failure to stop when turning. I guess i did a california roll. I am going 10 to 15 mph. very slow.
failure to stop when turning. I guess i did a california roll. I am going 10 to 15 mph. very slow.
7/6/07, 02:01 PM
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its a valid ticket, california rolls dont count as stops.
we enforce that law here in jersey. although u can turn on red, you must come to a complete stop before turning right.
we enforce that law here in jersey. although u can turn on red, you must come to a complete stop before turning right.
7/6/07, 02:01 PM
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It's a valid ticket if they claim you did not stop and you in fact didn't. California roll is illegal, just depends on the cop and the situation if they let you get away with it. Even when turning right on a red, no traffic you still have to come to a complete stop.
You can still fight it, you can say you stopped briefly, saw no traffic then proceeded with the turn, maybe the cop won't show.
I know it seems no one stops completely before making a right, I find my self rolling through them too all the time but it's definately a valid ticket.
Good luck.
You can still fight it, you can say you stopped briefly, saw no traffic then proceeded with the turn, maybe the cop won't show.
I know it seems no one stops completely before making a right, I find my self rolling through them too all the time but it's definately a valid ticket.
Good luck.
7/6/07, 02:06 PM
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I would have stop but common sense dictates that it was safe for me to go. If I only knew that they give infraction for that I would have completely stop and not move.
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7/6/07, 02:07 PM
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It's a valid ticket if they claim you did not stop and you in fact didn't. California roll is illegal, just depends on the cop and the situation if they let you get away with it. Even when turning right on a red, no traffic you still have to come to a complete stop.
You can still fight it, you can say you stopped briefly, saw no traffic then proceeded with the turn, maybe the cop won't show.
I know it seems no one stops completely before making a right, I find my self rolling through them too all the time but it's definately a valid ticket.
Good luck.
You can still fight it, you can say you stopped briefly, saw no traffic then proceeded with the turn, maybe the cop won't show.
I know it seems no one stops completely before making a right, I find my self rolling through them too all the time but it's definately a valid ticket.
Good luck.
7/6/07, 02:24 PM
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How do they get a photo of you not stopping? As far as I know they do not have video enforcement. Say you pause, complete stop, then proceed photo goes off, hows that prove you did or did not stop?
7/6/07, 02:30 PM
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I am wondering that myself. You have a great point. I am very careful when I drive the mustang. Its not a DD.
7/6/07, 02:37 PM
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I would say, since you know you did not stop, pay the ticket and learn from your mistake.
7/6/07, 03:10 PM
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They do have video, I have a friend who went through this. He was able to pull it up on the internet. But regardless, they got you. Sorry!
7/6/07, 04:02 PM
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that intersection look familiar where is that?
and yes they do have vid cams rolling at the same time and have people that review the tapes. The reason being that everyone was getting off on photoenforced tickets because no officer witnessed it, now they do via recording. go get ur extension to postpone, then plead not guilty wave time and hope the officer doesnt show up, or you can call mr ticket and hope he gets you off or at the time of pleading not guilty you can request to fight it by mail and that is currently the best way to not get a prosecution response and thus its dismissed. But they have to provide you with all evidence, so request access to the video and review it yourself.
and yes they do have vid cams rolling at the same time and have people that review the tapes. The reason being that everyone was getting off on photoenforced tickets because no officer witnessed it, now they do via recording. go get ur extension to postpone, then plead not guilty wave time and hope the officer doesnt show up, or you can call mr ticket and hope he gets you off or at the time of pleading not guilty you can request to fight it by mail and that is currently the best way to not get a prosecution response and thus its dismissed. But they have to provide you with all evidence, so request access to the video and review it yourself.
7/6/07, 04:21 PM
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theres plenty of real crime going on in socal, its just too much effort to fight that and hard criminals cant pay for their own defense no less any kind of fines, so theres no real money in it, just a bunch of unwanted costs. Thats why a kid will be given a ticket for skateboarding while right behind him someone robs the 7-11.
7/6/07, 04:25 PM
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Big Brother is watching!
You can't even pick your nose in the car anymore! ROFL!
It's a lot easier to make money for the state by this method than going out and catching real criminals.
You can't even pick your nose in the car anymore! ROFL!
It's a lot easier to make money for the state by this method than going out and catching real criminals.
7/6/07, 04:36 PM
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that intersection look familiar where is that?
and yes they do have vid cams rolling at the same time and have people that review the tapes. The reason being that everyone was getting off on photoenforced tickets because no officer witnessed it, now they do via recording. go get ur extension to postpone, then plead not guilty wave time and hope the officer doesnt show up, or you can call mr ticket and hope he gets you off or at the time of pleading not guilty you can request to fight it by mail and that is currently the best way to not get a prosecution response and thus its dismissed. But they have to provide you with all evidence, so request access to the video and review it yourself.
and yes they do have vid cams rolling at the same time and have people that review the tapes. The reason being that everyone was getting off on photoenforced tickets because no officer witnessed it, now they do via recording. go get ur extension to postpone, then plead not guilty wave time and hope the officer doesnt show up, or you can call mr ticket and hope he gets you off or at the time of pleading not guilty you can request to fight it by mail and that is currently the best way to not get a prosecution response and thus its dismissed. But they have to provide you with all evidence, so request access to the video and review it yourself.
7/6/07, 04:42 PM
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theres plenty of real crime going on in socal, its just too much effort to fight that and hard criminals cant pay for their own defense no less any kind of fines, so theres no real money in it, just a bunch of unwanted costs. Thats why a kid will be given a ticket for skateboarding while right behind him someone robs the 7-11.
Its all about money. I can tell you all about revenue for the city but I wont go there. Its a whole another story. I should have fish tailed on that intersection and go 80 mph and my license plate would be a blurr.
. Then I wouldn't feel bad about paying my fine but I had my two kids with me. 10 mph turning on the intersection sheez $361. I never drive reckless.
7/6/07, 04:52 PM
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I knew that looked familiar
