Is this true concerning pricing....
2/17/05 | 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Altoid+February 17, 2005, 2:56 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Altoid @ February 17, 2005, 2:56 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-holderca1@February 17, 2005, 2:53 PM
Explain what? How to send a PM?
Explain what? How to send a PM?
HAHAHA.
If you mean about kickbacks, remember, the invoice price that you’re getting "under" is WITH holdbacks. Plus the dealership might get an award, money, etc. for more/most sales. At worst they don’t make any money but get one more sale to look good.
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Oh, I didn't realize that needed explaining, it's right there in black and white on the price list.
2/17/05 | 07:25 PM
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As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
2/17/05 | 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1+February 17, 2005, 2:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(holderca1 @ February 17, 2005, 2:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Tyson@February 17, 2005, 2:50 PM
"Holder" why don't you explain it to us!
"Holder" why don't you explain it to us!
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Hey it's Altoid, Jr.
Don't worry. It made me laugh too.
2/17/05 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by StangNut@February 17, 2005, 8:28 PM
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
What is the AQHA discount?
2/17/05 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Tyson@February 17, 2005, 2:52 PM
Dealers get kickbacks for selling a certain amount of vehicles? I still tend to doubt that he sells ALL vehicles at $200 under invoice!
Just my thoughts
Dealers get kickbacks for selling a certain amount of vehicles? I still tend to doubt that he sells ALL vehicles at $200 under invoice!
Just my thoughts
ALL cars have a holdback. It's a set amount the manufacturer "holds back" until the car is sold and then credits the dealer. It's just a way to make it look like the dealer is giving a better deal than he really is.
Say invoice on a car today is $20,000. It really only cost the dealer $19,000 because once he sells the car, the manufacturer will credit him $1000 after he pays them the $20,000.
Several years ago, invoice numbers were kept private because that's what the dealer really paid for the car. Now EVERYONE knows what the invoice is.
As for doubting Kapro's numbers or anyone thinking there's something "funky" about it.
The ones you should be questioning are the dealers who sell for OVER invoice. Such as MSRP or over MSRP. This proves they are making a LOT of money off the average consumer.
2/17/05 | 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by DanTheMans22+February 17, 2005, 8:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DanTheMans22 @ February 17, 2005, 8:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-StangNut@February 17, 2005, 8:28 PM
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
What is the AQHA discount?
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American Quarter Horse Association
www.AQHA.com
$35 membership fee and Ford gives members $500 off the purchase of a new Ford.
2/17/05 | 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by StangNut+February 17, 2005, 8:42 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(StangNut @ February 17, 2005, 8:42 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
What is the AQHA discount?
Originally posted by DanTheMans22@February 17, 2005, 8:38 PM
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@February 17, 2005, 8:28 PM
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
What is the AQHA discount?
www.AQHA.com
$35 membership fee and Ford gives members $500 off the purchase of a new Ford.
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Reeaallllyy?? Does that have to be honored by all Ford dealerships? Can it be combined with X-Plan?
2/17/05 | 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by StangNut@February 17, 2005, 8:28 PM
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
2/17/05 | 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by canyoumatrix@February 17, 2005, 10:14 PM
No combination with X-plan, but yes they have to honor it, it doesn't cost them anything.
No combination with X-plan, but yes they have to honor it, it doesn't cost them anything.
2/17/05 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by davids2toys+February 17, 2005, 9:49 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(davids2toys @ February 17, 2005, 9:49 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-StangNut@February 17, 2005, 8:28 PM
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
As was already mentioned, yes, I'm buying my car from Karpro (Paul).
Or Karpro's dealership really. I unfortunately originally placed my order with another salesman. I don't think he understood what it meant to be a "StangNut" and it was like pulling teeth to get anything from him. (i.e. he was a typical salesman) Luckily Karpro stepped in and everything's great now.
The deal I'm getting (which I have in writing) is $200 under invoice plus AQHA IF it's still good when the car arrives.
BTW, his dealership is Van Bortel Ford in Victor, NY (upstate)
Also, they don't sell the Ford GT at that price.
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Look two posts above yours.
2/17/05 | 10:27 PM
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I'll say a good word about Paul (Karpro) also: He was real up front about the Ford delays, how many orders would be in front of me, and the expected time frame as well as being nice and knowledgeable.
I'll be getting mine at/for the Pony Drive, but I would have ordered from Paul or Dale Moates (great sales guy) at Ed Shirling Ford in Alabama. Figured I'd plug him also since it's nice to find car salesman that don't fit the stereotype!
I'll be getting mine at/for the Pony Drive, but I would have ordered from Paul or Dale Moates (great sales guy) at Ed Shirling Ford in Alabama. Figured I'd plug him also since it's nice to find car salesman that don't fit the stereotype!
2/18/05 | 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by slegos888@February 17, 2005, 2:26 PM
so hes just a salesman that gives good deals?
so hes just a salesman that gives good deals?
If he were closer (I live in CA) I would have ordered from him!
2/18/05 | 03:04 AM
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If not for Karpro!
I would be a lost soul in this car buying world!
Wish I could have had him for my saleperson.
But I live in Hawaii, so far from NY!
His knowledge that he shares with us is a blessing
and would wish every dealer had him!
Thanks Karpro!
Happy Trails!!
I would be a lost soul in this car buying world!
Wish I could have had him for my saleperson.
But I live in Hawaii, so far from NY!
His knowledge that he shares with us is a blessing
and would wish every dealer had him!
Thanks Karpro!
Happy Trails!!
2/18/05 | 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by glevy@February 17, 2005, 11:30 PM
I'll say a good word about Paul (Karpro) also: He was real up front about the Ford delays, how many orders would be in front of me, and the expected time frame as well as being nice and knowledgeable.
I'll be getting mine at/for the Pony Drive, but I would have ordered from Paul or Dale Moates (great sales guy) at Ed Shirling Ford in Alabama. Figured I'd plug him also since it's nice to find car salesman that don't fit the stereotype!
I'll say a good word about Paul (Karpro) also: He was real up front about the Ford delays, how many orders would be in front of me, and the expected time frame as well as being nice and knowledgeable.
I'll be getting mine at/for the Pony Drive, but I would have ordered from Paul or Dale Moates (great sales guy) at Ed Shirling Ford in Alabama. Figured I'd plug him also since it's nice to find car salesman that don't fit the stereotype!
Very upront and knowledgeable.
He even kept me informed when I had already ordered my car from Karpro.
Dale's more of a people person than a salesman.
So if you're anywhere near southeast Alabama, look him up.
2/18/05 | 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by StangNut@February 17, 2005, 9:42 PM
American Quarter Horse Association
www.AQHA.com
$35 membership fee and Ford gives members $500 off the purchase of a new Ford.
American Quarter Horse Association
www.AQHA.com
$35 membership fee and Ford gives members $500 off the purchase of a new Ford.
That incentive ran out on January 31st. They're not doing that discount anymore
2/18/05 | 10:24 AM
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man i wish i could afford that now.....wrecked my 5.0 on the 14th that nite, so now i really cant get 1 
time to get a honda and save up for the next few years lol 
im in CA anyways and he's in NY, dont think i could do the trip thing either between work and constant school :scratch: good to hear such a great guy thats around to take care of ya from a dealer tho 
:shock:
time to get a honda and save up for the next few years lol im in CA anyways and he's in NY, dont think i could do the trip thing either between work and constant school :scratch: good to hear such a great guy thats around to take care of ya from a dealer tho :shock: