Hey guys I wanted your opinion on this... I installed the Saleen HID's about a year ago. They are very cool lights, but I think they are too bright or something because I have been getting flashed from other drivers quite a bit. I took it down to the parking garage where I aligned them to double check if they are aligned correctly and they are. They haven't moved at all. So I am thinking they are just too bright. I do not want to be stopped for soemthing like this.

Have others with the Saleen HID's been stopped for these headlights being too bright?

If I do pull them I will sell them. Kinda sucks because they were rather expensive.

 

I'll buy them if the price is right.

 

I have had no problems with mine. To make sure that mine where aligned correctly I paid the shop to do it after I installed them. Small price to pay to make sure that all is cool.

 

How are you aligning them?

Draw a horizontal line 25' away from the vehicle, corresponding to the height from the ground to the center of the headlamp. There is a circle notched into the headlamp lens that indicates the center of the headlamp.

Turn on the headlamps and adjust them so that the cut-off is just at the line or slightly below it. Make sure the vehicle has about 1/2 tank of gas and the ground is even. If people continue to flash their headlights at you, it could be that the foglamps are confusing them or they are jealous.

 

This is exactly how I aligned them. On the top floor of a parking garage (Level Surface) at night with a taped line along the concrete wall. Just as described in the users instructions which came with the kit. So maybe your right. Just jealous people. Problem is, I DON'T WANT A JEALOUS COP.

 

And I am sure you don't want to be blinding and pissing off every on coming driver.

My daily (and nightly) driver is a Big F-450. If your lights are too bright, and it is blatantly obvious way up there, whatever your reason, high beams, extra lights, miss-alignment, the offensiveness is all the same to the viewer, and just as RUDE and DANGEROUS no matter what the cause, THAT IS WHY IT IS ILLEGAL!

I’ll give a quick courtesy flash, if you won't or can't turn them down; you get a permanent dose of all six of my very bright lights until we passed.

If oncoming drivers are constantly flashing you, your lights are too bright or misaligned PERIOD that is both rude and dangerous, and you need to fix it ASAP.

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Originally Posted by TUNGSTALLION

This is exactly how I aligned them. On the top floor of a parking garage (Level Surface) at night with a taped line along the concrete wall. Just as described in the users instructions which came with the kit. So maybe your right. Just jealous people. Problem is, I DON'T WANT A JEALOUS COP.

 

I get flashed a lot too. Maybe they're just a bit brighter than people are used to. I know I'm not blinding anybody, because I've looked at them with somebody else driving. They definitely aren't like high beams, and I wouldn't consider them dangerously bright.

 

One cop flashed his spotlight at me when I had my fog lamps on while driving the Stang. The Stang has stock factory H10 foglamp bulbs and Sylvania XtraVision H13 bulbs, all halogen, all street legal. I checked myself and it isn't blinding anyone. If you ask me, the large SUVs and pickup trucks with HIDs or bright headlamps should be banned or changed so their headlamps are at the same level as passenger cars.

I once made the mistake of checking my mirrors while passing a Cadillac Escalade with HID headlamps. It was like staring into the sun...

 

I don't have HID's, but I get flashed a lot when I drive at night with my fogs on. Idiots...we'll refer to them as "people" for now...think they're my highs. Unfortunately, when you turn the highs on, the fogs go out, so it's even more confusing to them! lol

I'll admit, people with too-bright driving lights, and especially miss-aligned lights, are dangerous. It's bad enough driving at night on some roads without being blinded.

Like the others have said, check your alignment. Really, the low-beams shouldn't try to do the work of the highs, and if aligned properly, they shouldn't be that much of a nuisance to other drivers. American's aren't used to HID's, too, which makes it even more of a pain.

You could also deploy your middle digit feature. :P

 

Most states have laws that specifically say you are to shut off your fog/driving lights for on coming traffic. My state does, cops will pull you over for it (leaving them on).

We just had a detective from a different county pulling people over (near his home) for it in his police car in his off time, and there was a big search for a police impersonator...

 

I checked Michigan's vehicle statutes and this is the only instance where it talks about fog lamps:

Basically it just states foglamps have to be mounted between 12" and 30" off ground, the beam has to be aimed 4 inches below the low beams 25' away from a wall.

 

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Now thats dangerous and real mature!!!! I see plenty of miss-aligned headlight(s) that doesnt mean I high beam every person i come across. If they have there high beams on might at the most flash my highs but woudl keep them on.

 

After I installed the aftermarket HID lamps (not Saleen) I got flashed a lot, I lowered each side 2 full turns and have not been flashed since. This did not make very much of a difference from my driving perspective.

hope this helps.

 

No that's called HUMAN NATURE, even the thickest numskull will eventually alter his inappropriate behavior if enough people slap him down about it.

As the original poster has shown, if every passing car is offended enough by your inappropriate lights, (or inappropriate use of your high beams or fog/driving lights) to flash/turn on their high beams, eventually you will tire of it and do something to remedy it. If nobody lets the offending driver know, he will do nothing. Period.

What are you really trying to say? If you are being blinded by an on coming driver, it is OK to flash them a little bit but not leave your brights on if they leave theirs on??? I don't keep mine on either unless the other driver doesn't dim his.


As to your "dangerous and real mature" comment, I believe the world works in a relatively balanced way, you get to live in the world you create for yourself. If you think inappropriate behavior is best left unchallenged, I suggest you are a wimp, who deserves to live in a world full of unruly rude people.

I believe in peace by superior fire power.


It is very simple, treat other people like you would like to be treated. If you don't want bright lights in your eyes, don't do it to other drivers. If you are getting flashed, you need to fix your lights, or your inconsiderate driving habits or both.

 

Idiots flash their highs at me all the time when only my low beams are on. This happens when I drive both of my vehicles, and neither of them have HID lights. Heck, the Focus doesn't even have fog lights.

It makes me mad, but what really irks me is when they start flashing their highs on and off repeatedly at me. When I see this, I grab for the high beams and hold them on until that car has completely passed by me.

I don't consider it immature or rude actually. Why should I have to endure the repeated flashing of their high beams, when they are the idiots who are wrong? If I have to stare at their high beams because they are stupid, they deserve the privilege of staring at my high beams.

 

What im saying is just because someone is doing something rude and dangerous doesnt give someone else the right to do it also. even you think its dangerous...text from your post. In the statment below you mention miss-alignment how is the driver suppost to fix that while driving? He cant so I guess you'll just blind him. I have no problem flashing someone to let them know they have there high beams or the lights are miss-aligned but keeping your on is just childish. just think if everyone acted like this. Im sure your lights bothered other people when you were trying to teach that person a leason. Did other oncoming drivers then highbeam you?

"If your lights are too bright, and it is blatantly obvious way up there, whatever your reason, high beams, extra lights, miss-alignment, the offensiveness is all the same to the viewer, and just as RUDE and DANGEROUS no matter what the cause, THAT IS WHY IT IS ILLEGAL!"

I'm trying to change inappropriate behavior right now!!! Guess im not a wimp lol. So, if someone is doing something inappropriate I have the right to change there actions? That could get very interesting since Im in a carry state. Next time Im out and see someone misbehaving I'll just pull my glock out and make sure they change there behavior. Im sure the officer wont have any problem with this!!! How else are they going to learn?????

"If you think inappropriate behavior is best left unchallenged, I suggest you are a wimp, who deserves to live in a world full of unruly rude people."

 

There is a third possibility: The people doing the flashing are in the wrong.

The OP already said he checked his alignment, and it's correct. The lights are DOT approved, so there's nothing illegal about their brightness level. They're just brighter than the cars around you, which makes some oncoming people think something's wrong. Nothing's wrong, they just need to resist their compulsion to correct other drivers.

 

I agree, I re-checked them last night. Only this time in a different location with new measurements and all. Everything checks out. I think it has something to do with the time of day now. Now that it gets darker later. I think people are just tripping. I had another person drive my car while I was in another car coming from the opposite direction. Everything looked okay to me they are NOT blinding in anyway. I am keeping them.
People can kiss my ***

 

Are you checking the alignment with an almost empty gas tank, full tank, or half-tank?

 

Half Tank.