Stupid 17 year old + Mustang = Crash
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Would you say all kids with nice cars are spoiled? even if they pay for them themselves?
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I'm 18, and there is nothing I like less than a kid who brags about the car their parents bought for them. People who don't have to put any money into their car do not invest any sense of ownership on it, and can not invest as much care into it as they could if it was their hard earned dollar used to purchase it.
Most of my friends laugh at me and tell me I drive like an old lady, and there's a good reason for that. I've invested basically every dollar I've earned into it since I was 15. Being it insurance, gas, or fun parts, I have paid for almost everything(I do have to borrow on occasion, which is paid back in full). I loathe the fact that people find it alright to endanger other people just for a thrill, it's not worth the other person's life.
I have always seen in my own experience that men do generally drive with a more precision hand than women. I do not really know why, but I feel that in general male drivers are more cautious than women no matter how fast they go. Out of my friends Arin and I are the only males who have been in an accident, while I couldn't count on my fingers and toes how many girls I know have been in an accident.
I agree whole heartedly with Adrian that teenage girls have to be the least attentive drivers on the road. When boys do mess up, though, they end up doing it much more spectacularly.
Lastly, I think the driving test to obtain a license is an absolute joke. People are not taught to respect their vehicle, or other people on the road. Driving is a privilege, and privileges do not offer equality, they should only be given to people who have gone out of their way to deserve them.
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I'm 18, and there is nothing I like less than a kid who brags about the car their parents bought for them. People who don't have to put any money into their car do not invest any sense of ownership on it, and can not invest as much care into it as they could if it was their hard earned dollar used to purchase it.
Most of my friends laugh at me and tell me I drive like an old lady, and there's a good reason for that. I've invested basically every dollar I've earned into it since I was 15. Being it insurance, gas, or fun parts, I have paid for almost everything(I do have to borrow on occasion, which is paid back in full). I loathe the fact that people find it alright to endanger other people just for a thrill, it's not worth the other person's life.
I have always seen in my own experience that men do generally drive with a more precision hand than women. I do not really know why, but I feel that in general male drivers are more cautious than women no matter how fast they go. Out of my friends Arin and I are the only males who have been in an accident, while I couldn't count on my fingers and toes how many girls I know have been in an accident.
I agree whole heartedly with Adrian that teenage girls have to be the least attentive drivers on the road. When boys do mess up, though, they end up doing it much more spectacularly.
Lastly, I think the driving test to obtain a license is an absolute joke. People are not taught to respect their vehicle, or other people on the road. Driving is a privilege, and privileges do not offer equality, they should only be given to people who have gone out of their way to deserve them.
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Not that hard. I got a new 01 6 banger when I was 16 (my first car) that mommy and daddy didnt help me pay for. It did help that my dad was a branch manager for Ford Credit though...
Agree to an extent. Most 30 year old would probably would know better than going 80 in a residential area, so i dont think that you would really see that.
I too got my first Gt at 18/19 or so, and paying for it gives you a better respect for your stuff your definately right. But let me ask you this...how do you not know he paid for it himself? You said mommy and daddy bought it for him...didnt you buy your first at a young age without mommy and daddys help?
Would you say all kids with nice cars are spoiled? even if they pay for them themselves?
Agree to an extent. Most 30 year old would probably would know better than going 80 in a residential area, so i dont think that you would really see that.
I too got my first Gt at 18/19 or so, and paying for it gives you a better respect for your stuff your definately right. But let me ask you this...how do you not know he paid for it himself? You said mommy and daddy bought it for him...didnt you buy your first at a young age without mommy and daddys help?
Would you say all kids with nice cars are spoiled? even if they pay for them themselves?
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I will buy Jack Stands!!!
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I'm 18, and there is nothing I like less than a kid who brags about the car their parents bought for them. People who don't have to put any money into their car do not invest any sense of ownership on it, and can not invest as much care into it as they could if it was their hard earned dollar used to purchase it.
Most of my friends laugh at me and tell me I drive like an old lady, and there's a good reason for that. I've invested basically every dollar I've earned into it since I was 15. Being it insurance, gas, or fun parts, I have paid for almost everything(I do have to borrow on occasion, which is paid back in full). I loathe the fact that people find it alright to endanger other people just for a thrill, it's not worth the other person's life.
I have always seen in my own experience that men do generally drive with a more precision hand than women. I do not really know why, but I feel that in general male drivers are more cautious than women no matter how fast they go. Out of my friends Arin and I are the only males who have been in an accident, while I couldn't count on my fingers and toes how many girls I know have been in an accident.
I agree whole heartedly with Adrian that teenage girls have to be the least attentive drivers on the road. When boys do mess up, though, they end up doing it much more spectacularly.
Lastly, I think the driving test to obtain a license is an absolute joke. People are not taught to respect their vehicle, or other people on the road. Driving is a privilege, and privileges do not offer equality, they should only be given to people who have gone out of their way to deserve them.
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I'm 18, and there is nothing I like less than a kid who brags about the car their parents bought for them. People who don't have to put any money into their car do not invest any sense of ownership on it, and can not invest as much care into it as they could if it was their hard earned dollar used to purchase it.
Most of my friends laugh at me and tell me I drive like an old lady, and there's a good reason for that. I've invested basically every dollar I've earned into it since I was 15. Being it insurance, gas, or fun parts, I have paid for almost everything(I do have to borrow on occasion, which is paid back in full). I loathe the fact that people find it alright to endanger other people just for a thrill, it's not worth the other person's life.
I have always seen in my own experience that men do generally drive with a more precision hand than women. I do not really know why, but I feel that in general male drivers are more cautious than women no matter how fast they go. Out of my friends Arin and I are the only males who have been in an accident, while I couldn't count on my fingers and toes how many girls I know have been in an accident.
I agree whole heartedly with Adrian that teenage girls have to be the least attentive drivers on the road. When boys do mess up, though, they end up doing it much more spectacularly.
Lastly, I think the driving test to obtain a license is an absolute joke. People are not taught to respect their vehicle, or other people on the road. Driving is a privilege, and privileges do not offer equality, they should only be given to people who have gone out of their way to deserve them.
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i know you didnt say all kids, it was just a simple question to you (you know...making conversation). But i guess what i was trying to say was how do you know who the "spoiled kids" are? Just because he drives a nice car means hes spoiled by your definition? You didnt clarify "kids+spoiled=parents purchased for them" in your post, so how was one to know what you were referring to?
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I know i will probably get bashed for this post but I have to say that I am 17 driving a vista blue v6 nearly exactly the same as the one in that video and i am not saying that all teens are good drivers, but a lot are. At my high school i feel like i could walk around and ask every girl there who drives if theyve ever been in a wreck and more than half would say yes. The only difference is that 100 girls who back out of the garage into their dads car is overshadowed by one stupid cocky guy that flips his car while speeding. Ive seen a kid flip a harley davidson f250 only to have it replaced by a lifted fx4 f150 and i completely agree with the fact that kids like him dont deserve sh*t. That specific kid is now at a community college and from kowing the kid probably in danger of failing out. I know it will probably make you all furious but his junior brother just got a challenger srt8. In my defense, i feel like i am not like these kids at all. I was given the car as a gift but i work at a local carwash and buy gas, insurance, and any mods. I also am a near straight A student with sat scores in the 95th percentile so though i have not worked enough at a money making job to pay for the car entirely on my own, I still feel to some extent that i have earned this gift. I still thank my parents everyday for it though..
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all the tow truck drivers I ve ever talked to have told me they tow 10 to 1 young female drivers. They told me those we dumber daddys girls who most were talking on a phone and t boned someone or some thing. Young males get a bad rap because when they do crash its a little more high profile.
I've been in two accidents in my life. Neither were my fault. Both were from high school girls. And no, I didn't know either of them.
Statistics are useless. They're numbers that happen on paper to other people. The other way to look at statistics, the more miles you have, the more likely you are to have an accident. If you're in your forties and have never had an accident, you should get off the road before you kill someone!
So at the end of the day, we have an idiot driving his car too fast? That's news? Wow. I see dozens of those every day. On the cell. Accidentally merging lanes. Didn't see people driving down the road. Misjudged timing. Age and experience are only the tip of the iceberg of the human condition. Drawing too much attention to kids driving poorly takes away attention from people driving poorly.
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I've been in two accidents in my life. Neither were my fault. Both were from high school girls. And no, I didn't know either of them.
Statistics are useless. They're numbers that happen on paper to other people. The other way to look at statistics, the more miles you have, the more likely you are to have an accident. If you're in your forties and have never had an accident, you should get off the road before you kill someone!
So at the end of the day, we have an idiot driving his car too fast? That's news? Wow. I see dozens of those every day. On the cell. Accidentally merging lanes. Didn't see people driving down the road. Misjudged timing. Age and experience are only the tip of the iceberg of the human condition. Drawing too much attention to kids driving poorly takes away attention from people driving poorly.
Just my lame opinions.
Worth half a penny for a score of 'em.
At most.
Statistics are useless. They're numbers that happen on paper to other people. The other way to look at statistics, the more miles you have, the more likely you are to have an accident. If you're in your forties and have never had an accident, you should get off the road before you kill someone!
So at the end of the day, we have an idiot driving his car too fast? That's news? Wow. I see dozens of those every day. On the cell. Accidentally merging lanes. Didn't see people driving down the road. Misjudged timing. Age and experience are only the tip of the iceberg of the human condition. Drawing too much attention to kids driving poorly takes away attention from people driving poorly.
Just my lame opinions.
Worth half a penny for a score of 'em.
At most.
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For all it's worth I am glad to have made it through my teens a dozen or so of my friends did not make it though.All died due to high speed crashes, usually on wet or winding roads.Some were spoiled rich kids but most were not.All just drove faster then their talent.For most everyone that survives will learn what their abilities behind wheel are and drive accordingly,
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Ive only gone 70 at US 281. Thats the speed limit. I never go past the speed limit by more than 5 mph.
And yes my Dad was there.
I'm very reluctant to drive at night or when its wet
And yes my Dad was there.
I'm very reluctant to drive at night or when its wet
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So as a teen who gets straight As and works and doesn't drive like an idiot, you should be jumping on the bandwagon and pointing out the frequent idiocy that your compatriots demonstrate on a regular basis, and make sure you're never goaded into following their example. Driving license laws in this country are ridiculously inept, and if that means that supporting stricter laws (which will likely never appear) means that as a 17 year old you can't drive if you can't prove your competency, you should step up to the plate and say "test me, I'll pass." If you're not so confident in that, then you shouldn't be saying you're not a riskier driver than someone twice your age.
Unfortunately there are many drivers at both end of the age spectrum, and scads in the middle, who don't know a thing about safe driving, much less performance driving. But claiming somehow that you're not 'one of them' and complaining when others point out a frequently observed fact makes you sound even more childish.
I was a straight A, straight laced kid, but still did stupid things then (and quite less infrequently now) that I'm surprised I survived. But one year's experience driving doesn't remove anyone's suspicions of your competency, no matter how well behaved you usually are.
Unfortunately there are many drivers at both end of the age spectrum, and scads in the middle, who don't know a thing about safe driving, much less performance driving. But claiming somehow that you're not 'one of them' and complaining when others point out a frequently observed fact makes you sound even more childish.
I was a straight A, straight laced kid, but still did stupid things then (and quite less infrequently now) that I'm surprised I survived. But one year's experience driving doesn't remove anyone's suspicions of your competency, no matter how well behaved you usually are.
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I have seen people live doing well over 100 in newer cars in my town and I have to cut them out of their cars. Usually they have minor cuts and brusies. However these people aren't on their way to school, where theres kids everywhere in driveways and streets.
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Needless to say I was shocked when I saw that on the news the other night. 80mph on a highway, not a big deal... but on a residential rd in a neighborhood, you're just asking for trouble. He's one lucky kid.
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Yeah, The "MyKey" option should be available in the Mustang. Not only to keep kids out of trouble, but also to keep valets, car wash attendents and service techs from thrashing them.
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So as a teen who gets straight As and works and doesn't drive like an idiot, you should be jumping on the bandwagon and pointing out the frequent idiocy that your compatriots demonstrate on a regular basis, and make sure you're never goaded into following their example. Driving license laws in this country are ridiculously inept, and if that means that supporting stricter laws (which will likely never appear) means that as a 17 year old you can't drive if you can't prove your competency, you should step up to the plate and say "test me, I'll pass." If you're not so confident in that, then you shouldn't be saying you're not a riskier driver than someone twice your age.
Unfortunately there are many drivers at both end of the age spectrum, and scads in the middle, who don't know a thing about safe driving, much less performance driving. But claiming somehow that you're not 'one of them' and complaining when others point out a frequently observed fact makes you sound even more childish.
I was a straight A, straight laced kid, but still did stupid things then (and quite less infrequently now) that I'm surprised I survived. But one year's experience driving doesn't remove anyone's suspicions of your competency, no matter how well behaved you usually are.
Unfortunately there are many drivers at both end of the age spectrum, and scads in the middle, who don't know a thing about safe driving, much less performance driving. But claiming somehow that you're not 'one of them' and complaining when others point out a frequently observed fact makes you sound even more childish.
I was a straight A, straight laced kid, but still did stupid things then (and quite less infrequently now) that I'm surprised I survived. But one year's experience driving doesn't remove anyone's suspicions of your competency, no matter how well behaved you usually are.
Despite that I am guilty of doing stupid things when I was young. I don't think anyone here bought their mustang and never stepped on the gas a little. We're all guilty of that, and I dont' think there's anything wrong with it as long as you asses the risk. Think about where you are and who/what's around you. Doing 80mph down a residential street is RETARTED. You're putting other people in harms way, and not allowing any room for error (supposedly this kid got cut off and ran out of road to evade the car). That would obviously not have happened if he was doing the speed limit (or at least not to that extent of damage). The funny thing is despite my "need for speed" as a teenager, my parents would trust me behind the wheel over my sister any day. She used to hate when they said that, but like someone above mentioned, it just seems that a lot of girls get into less spectacular, but more frequent accidents. My own sister backed my mom's car into the neighbors SUV the first week she had a license! haha
I'm 26 now, and again, bought my GT with my hard earned money. I am very proud of what I've built it into, and take very good care or it. I'm 26 now, and there's still nothing I love more than stomping on that throttle and hearing the roar of my engine while I'm speeding by.... I mostly stick to the test & tune nights at the local track now for that rush. Not worth the risk of hurting me, my car, or someone else doing that stuff on the street. You never know what might be in the road that could send you crashing into something. Like some people said - don't bring others down with your stupidity.
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-- it's with two Ds, not two Ts.
Sorry, couldn't resist
Totally agree. When I was a teenager, brand new license, got my first speeding ticket and my parents laughed at me. Grounded my sisters for the same thing, though. (I also bought my first radar detector right afterwards, age 17.) But I was always a car guy, loved driving, took a great interest in it, and doing it well. Taken a long time to finally get on the track for more instruction and experience, but doing that now as well (HPDE at Pikes Peak this Saturday!).
Most teenagers see the car as their freedom, and ironically so do elderly people, and many of both shouldn't be on the road at all, at least not without more training. Same went for my sisters, and was the reason their driving mistakes were punished more severely. I knew when I screwed up, like nudging into a ditch on an enjoyable set of curves that happened to be a bit slick from the morning frost, and paid for the repairs. The number of fender-benders my sister had before age 21 I can't count, and she still has them to this day.
But very few 'bad drivers' ever realize or will admit to their inadequacies driving and yet they are taking every other motorists' lives in their hands on a daily basis (and sometimes the neighborhood couch potato, too, as in this case).
Sorry, couldn't resist
Totally agree. When I was a teenager, brand new license, got my first speeding ticket and my parents laughed at me. Grounded my sisters for the same thing, though. (I also bought my first radar detector right afterwards, age 17.) But I was always a car guy, loved driving, took a great interest in it, and doing it well. Taken a long time to finally get on the track for more instruction and experience, but doing that now as well (HPDE at Pikes Peak this Saturday!).
Most teenagers see the car as their freedom, and ironically so do elderly people, and many of both shouldn't be on the road at all, at least not without more training. Same went for my sisters, and was the reason their driving mistakes were punished more severely. I knew when I screwed up, like nudging into a ditch on an enjoyable set of curves that happened to be a bit slick from the morning frost, and paid for the repairs. The number of fender-benders my sister had before age 21 I can't count, and she still has them to this day.
But very few 'bad drivers' ever realize or will admit to their inadequacies driving and yet they are taking every other motorists' lives in their hands on a daily basis (and sometimes the neighborhood couch potato, too, as in this case).
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