Starting in 2nd gear with TR-3650
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Starting in 2nd gear with TR-3650
Does anyone know if starting in 2nd gear with the TR-3650 will tend to wear out the clutch faster? I thought the whole point of parking the car in 1st gear is so that the car is more difficult to move. If one starts off in 2nd gear, then wouldn't the clutch have to be slipped less to get the vehicle moving?
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You have it backwards. 1st gear has more leverage for the engine, less leverage for the car when trying to roll it in 1st. As you go up thru the gears, the engine has less leverage, and the car has more against the engine. Reverse has more leverage than 1st. So park it in reverse if you want more security against a emergency brake cable failure while parked.
You have it backwards. 1st gear has more leverage for the engine, less leverage for the car when trying to roll it in 1st. As you go up thru the gears, the engine has less leverage, and the car has more against the engine. Reverse has more leverage than 1st. So park it in reverse if you want more security against a emergency brake cable failure while parked.
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FYI:
2007 TR-3650 gear ratios.
Source: Advantage 2.9x and 3.x PRP
1st: 3.38
2nd: 2.00
3rd: 1.32
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.62
Rev: 3.38
I even double checked with other TR-3650 gear ratios and these look correct. The 3650 has been used since 2001 in various cars: BA Falcon, 01-04 Mustang GT, MG Rover, and the S197 GT. The biggest changes are in the 5th gear ratios. Some of the variants are numerically higher.
2007 TR-3650 gear ratios.
Source: Advantage 2.9x and 3.x PRP
1st: 3.38
2nd: 2.00
3rd: 1.32
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.62
Rev: 3.38
I even double checked with other TR-3650 gear ratios and these look correct. The 3650 has been used since 2001 in various cars: BA Falcon, 01-04 Mustang GT, MG Rover, and the S197 GT. The biggest changes are in the 5th gear ratios. Some of the variants are numerically higher.
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Here's Tremec's website for the 3650:
http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English...ts/TR-3650.asp
Reverse has always been 3.38 or 4.38
http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English...ts/TR-3650.asp
Reverse has always been 3.38 or 4.38
#13
Stop worrying about your clutch. In a manual transmission vehicle, you should use it as you like, besides riding it. Dumping it won't hurt it. Slipping it a bit won't hurt it. If you have to change it out every year or two, big deal. Learn how to do it yourself; clutches are cheap. I drove the hell out of my '86 for years with the same cheap FMS HD clutch, and it gripped as well the day I blew 3rd gear out as the day I put it in.
Drive it hard.
Drive it hard.
#17
He probably has the 'its my first manual and I find changing gears especially with 3.55s a chore'
When i first got the car I thought 'man this is annoying having to change gears so often'
Obviously...now its a rush
When i first got the car I thought 'man this is annoying having to change gears so often'
Obviously...now its a rush
#18
the clutch will wear faster but there are times i start in second. like when cops are around and i want to make even less noise. just enjoy the car, eci is correct, the clutch is garbage anyway. i am going to change mine out sooner then later anyway
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So I'm trying to figure out why folks seem to think the stock clitch is crap....
I have 40k miles on my 05, it's a daily driver and I've been known to drive it like its stolen from time to time
I've done several of burn outs in this car over the years (2000 rpm dump he clutch and enjoy) and the clutch still grips just as good today as it did in Nov 04.
I have 40k miles on my 05, it's a daily driver and I've been known to drive it like its stolen from time to time
I've done several of burn outs in this car over the years (2000 rpm dump he clutch and enjoy) and the clutch still grips just as good today as it did in Nov 04.
#20
The stock clutch is crap and the stock 3650 is crap. I had to have my 3650 replaced with 8k miles on it due to dropping second gear synchros and then the clutch went out so I replaced it with a Spec 3 (far superior to stock) and now with 24k miles on the car second gear synchros are going out again. The 3650 sucks.