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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 6th, 2004, 12:44 PM
Oh god ... I just had a bad thought. I hope its not an Eleanor appearance package.
We already know Cervinis is working on one.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 6th, 2004, 7:30 PM
What engine would they use in a Mach or Cobra? They don't have one that would work I don't think. It will probably be purely appearance.
if only it turns out to be the 6.2 hurricane.........
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Yes brad, but thats not something from the factory.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 6th, 2004, 8:15 PM
Yes brad, but thats not something from the factory.
But this is SEMA we're talking about. It rarely has anything to do with the "factory".
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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But Chris Theodore does ...
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 6th, 2004, 6:30 PM
What engine would they use in a Mach or Cobra? They don't have one that would work I don't think. It will probably be purely appearance.
Here are some things to think about:

The Navigator gets a 5.4L - 3V engine for 2005. I wonder if it has an aluminum block? If so with a different intake manifold and some tweaks there's a Mustang engine.

Reportedly the 4.6 can be bored to 92mm and meet Ford's reliability requirements, that would bump the 4.6L up to 4.8L.

The same thing could be done to the 5.4L which would bump it up to 5.6L.

Ford is also reportedly been working on a S/C 4.6 that uses a twin screw S/C on an all aluminum 3V, 4.6L.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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I doubt the Nav engine would fit. Everything says there is barely enough room for the current engine. I guess they could do the 4.6 > 4.8 conversion, but I would think they would do that from the beginning.
The SC 4.6 would probably be more than just rumors at this point if they were using it in March.

And again, they wouldn't release something that would upset the early buyers.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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yea the 5.4 is too tall. The 6.2 of the future however..... Expedition and superduty get the 3v 5.4 next year too. And a Limited Exped bows
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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The new SE will be lowered 5 inches, have 20" spinners, leppard skin seats, fuzzy dice, a huge double deck wing, euro lights, and to top it off color changing paint. Should be hot B) ( )
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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hmm sounds good to me ( ) btw, like your sig! i live by that (one more year!)
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Hopefully Chris Theodore isn't building us up for disappointment.

Now, if it is true, i'd expect two (maybe three) main options:

1) 5.4L 3-valve (a while back a Ford Tech student said that on a tour the guide said that the 5.4 was being tested in the stang and that it would debut in about 6 months of the launch)

2) 4.6L 3-valve with higher compression and other engine tweaks (it has been said that this engine can "easily" hit 300hp and is capable of quite a bit more N/A)

3) 4.6L 3-valve S/C

The 5.4L sounds very appealing.........but heck, I'd take anything.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 04:34 AM
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I think maybe you could see a 5.4 in there...even though it won't be a production piece (i feel personally) for a while...
but they'll do it, just to show you it fits
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Galaxie@Jun. 6th, 2004, 1:05 AM
SEMA - Specialty Equipment Manufacterer's Association

sorry for the correction but SEMA = Specialty Equipment Market Association

show this year is nov 2 - nov 5, as always its at the Las Vegas Convention Center
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by montreal ponies@Jun. 6th, 2004, 6:20 PM
That's really gooooood news....hopefully it will be a Mach1. A shaker hood would look awasome....Can"t wait.
its already been mentioned that the cutout is on the hood already... so IMHO the mach seems to be the frontrunner
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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I'd really prefer the BOSS, even if it's just the 302 since Ford has (you should know by now of course) dropped any hope of a big block return. I'd like them all to make a return however: The BOSS, Mach 1, and Shelby, but I doubt a Shelby since the final project he planned to do with Ford actually turned out to be the Shelby Cobra. As I've said before, don't get your hopes up too high because Ford will most likely disappoint (god forbid).
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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isnt SEMA where ford first unveiled the bullitt???? i dont think its going to have a different engine yet. they may tweak it like for the bullitt. and will have different wheels and suspension and maybe the ducktail or something like that
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by conv_stang@Jun. 7th, 2004, 1:04 PM
isnt SEMA where ford first unveiled the bullitt???? i dont think its going to have a different engine yet. they may tweak it like for the bullitt. and will have different wheels and suspension and maybe the ducktail or something like that
This seems to be a popular guess. Hopefully we'll see a decent hp gain.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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they might have the engine conver on this too. since its not on the mainstream gt from the factory
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by conv_stang@June 7, 2004, 11:04 AM
isnt SEMA where ford first unveiled the bullitt???? i dont think its going to have a different engine yet. they may tweak it like for the bullitt. and will have different wheels and suspension and maybe the ducktail or something like that
No, the Bullitt was at the 2000 LA show. I am starting to think we might NOT see anything really that new (no SE) from Ford at the 2004 SEMA show. Maybe a blower from Vortech or body kits from Roush, Steeda or Saleen. Of course that is a big maybe since it is an aftermarket show. Just my $.02 again.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Arboc+June 7, 2004, 10:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arboc @ June 7, 2004, 10:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Galaxie@Jun. 6th, 2004, 1:05 AM
SEMA - Specialty Equipment Manufacterer's Association

sorry for the correction but SEMA = Specialty Equipment Market Association

show this year is nov 2 - nov 5, as always its at the Las Vegas Convention Center [/b][/quote]
I stand corrected... close enough..

from what I have seen, this is the coolest show ever... I don't believe it is open to the general public
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