Slippery tires from just cold pavement?
#1
I've encountered an interesting phenomenon with regard to the grip of my tires during these cold winter months.
On quite a few occasions, while leaving work in the evenings, I have slightly spun out—with VERY LITTLE acceleration—trying to enter the flow of traffic.
This is understandable, and even somewhat expected, with ice or even rain on the roads, but these particular spinouts occurred on dry pavement at night.
So here's my question: Do cold tires in general have less grip on cold pavement, or is this just particular to the stock '06 GT tires?
On quite a few occasions, while leaving work in the evenings, I have slightly spun out—with VERY LITTLE acceleration—trying to enter the flow of traffic.
This is understandable, and even somewhat expected, with ice or even rain on the roads, but these particular spinouts occurred on dry pavement at night.
So here's my question: Do cold tires in general have less grip on cold pavement, or is this just particular to the stock '06 GT tires?
#2
Originally posted by atomicvibe@December 25, 2005, 5:25 PM
I've encountered an interesting phenomenon with regard to the grip of my tires during these cold winter months.
On quite a few occasions, while leaving work in the evenings, I have slightly spun out—with VERY LITTLE acceleration—trying to enter the flow of traffic.
This is understandable, and even somewhat expected, with ice or even rain on the roads, but these particular spinouts occurred on dry pavement at night.
So here's my question: Do cold tires in general have less grip on cold pavement, or is this just particular to the stock '06 GT tires?
I've encountered an interesting phenomenon with regard to the grip of my tires during these cold winter months.
On quite a few occasions, while leaving work in the evenings, I have slightly spun out—with VERY LITTLE acceleration—trying to enter the flow of traffic.
This is understandable, and even somewhat expected, with ice or even rain on the roads, but these particular spinouts occurred on dry pavement at night.
So here's my question: Do cold tires in general have less grip on cold pavement, or is this just particular to the stock '06 GT tires?
Stone cold tires mean the rubber compound is harder, and hence less grippy on the pavement. Burnouts at a drag race aren't just for show. It's to get that rubber heated up so it'll stick when the light turns green....
#4
Lack of grip doesn't just apply when you're entering traffic either. Also watch out on corners that you may take fairly fast in the summer lest you get surprised by the back end coming around to meet you in the front.
#6
Originally posted by slammer223@December 25, 2005, 5:10 PM
Lack of grip doesn't just apply when you're entering traffic either. Also watch out on corners that you may take fairly fast in the summer lest you get surprised by the back end coming around to meet you in the front.
Lack of grip doesn't just apply when you're entering traffic either. Also watch out on corners that you may take fairly fast in the summer lest you get surprised by the back end coming around to meet you in the front.
#8
Originally posted by Pitch Black@December 27, 2005, 6:48 PM
Yea.. Freakin sucks when that happens.. Take my word on it!
Yea.. Freakin sucks when that happens.. Take my word on it!
#11
Originally posted by gt6974a@December 28, 2005, 11:14 AM
Cold air is also more dense so the tire pressure will be greater than it is in the summer. You might want to take out a pound or two.
Cold air is also more dense so the tire pressure will be greater than it is in the summer. You might want to take out a pound or two.
#12
yes you are correct, guess I had it backwards in my head being that since hot air is less dense and it expands.
LOL, I haven't seen that equation since my Thermodynamics class in college. Here's an illustration http://www.7stones.com/Homepage/Publisher/Thermo1.html
however, taking air out of his tire may still help.
LOL, I haven't seen that equation since my Thermodynamics class in college. Here's an illustration http://www.7stones.com/Homepage/Publisher/Thermo1.html
however, taking air out of his tire may still help.
#13
Originally posted by gt6974a@December 28, 2005, 11:46 AM
yes you are correct, guess I had it backwards in my head being that since hot air is less dense and it expands.
LOL, I haven't seen that equation since my Thermodynamics class in college. Here's an illustration http://www.7stones.com/Homepage/Publisher/Thermo1.html
however, taking air out of his tire may still help.
yes you are correct, guess I had it backwards in my head being that since hot air is less dense and it expands.
LOL, I haven't seen that equation since my Thermodynamics class in college. Here's an illustration http://www.7stones.com/Homepage/Publisher/Thermo1.html
however, taking air out of his tire may still help.
#14
Originally posted by P_Kiley+December 25, 2005, 5:39 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(P_Kiley @ December 25, 2005, 5:39 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>In short: Yes
Stone cold tires mean the rubber compound is harder, and hence less grippy on the pavement. Burnouts at a drag race aren't just for show. It's to get that rubber heated up so it'll stick when the light turns green....
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Stone cold tires mean the rubber compound is harder, and hence less grippy on the pavement. Burnouts at a drag race aren't just for show. It's to get that rubber heated up so it'll stick when the light turns green....
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Theres your answer. They will get worse the colder it is.
The compound on snow tires is softer and arent effected as much as all season tires.
What your getting is normal. A car with alot of power, cold weather, and avg traction tires.
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you should see what it's like with snow tires on. I can fish tail at will just by slamming the gas with TCS off. This is on 40 degree dry pavement.
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Now you know why snow tires traction rating is poor on dry pavement!
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