Should I fight my window tint ticket?
#21
TMS West Coast Correspondent
Join Date: October 14, 2004
Posts: 3,581
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you really want to know why this is a law then you should ask the people who made it. The Law Enforcement Officers of your state didn't make the law. The Senators and Representatives of your state made it. Your assumptions about Police Officer assumptions are comical. Never assume anything.
#22
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: April 2, 2005
Location: Burkburnett, TX
Posts: 748
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You do the crime... you do the time (or take the ticket, whichever applies!).
I can't believe guys like this still post on here about getting a ticket (speeding, noise, tint) and wondering how to get out of it. They all know they did the violation, but are unwilling to own up to it like men (or women). I guess I am just old school when it comes to taking responsibility for my actions.
I can't believe guys like this still post on here about getting a ticket (speeding, noise, tint) and wondering how to get out of it. They all know they did the violation, but are unwilling to own up to it like men (or women). I guess I am just old school when it comes to taking responsibility for my actions.
#23
TMS West Coast Correspondent
Join Date: October 14, 2004
Posts: 3,581
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You do the crime... you do the time (or take the ticket, whichever applies!).
I can't believe guys like this still post on here about getting a ticket (speeding, noise, tint) and wondering how to get out of it. They all know they did the violation, but are unwilling to own up to it like men (or women). I guess I am just old school when it comes to taking responsibility for my actions.
I can't believe guys like this still post on here about getting a ticket (speeding, noise, tint) and wondering how to get out of it. They all know they did the violation, but are unwilling to own up to it like men (or women). I guess I am just old school when it comes to taking responsibility for my actions.
As for the issue at hand, TINT, I think the main argument being made here is more that it shouldn't be a law to begin with.
#24
I don't know where to start with my the response to rrobello's post. I'm a member of ABATE (a motorcycle action group). We didn't like the helmet laws in our state and worked within the system to have them changed. The op obviously is breaking the law with his tint (and is a law I wouldn't be happy with in my state.) The answer is to have the law changed but unless/until this happens anyone outside the scope of the tinting laws who decide to use illegal tinting is breaking the law. Go to court if you wish but circumstancial evidence will find that person in fault.
Fight the laws not the court.
Fight the laws not the court.
#25
Tint laws = BS
Got nailed for them last week - rookie made a u-turn from the opposite side of a main road (Richmond Ave for those in the know) and tracked me for half a mile before pulling me over. For tints.
And Trooper: "You are probably just jealous that his place in society grants him complete control over you"
No, I can't think of many people that are jealous of college dropouts.
Got nailed for them last week - rookie made a u-turn from the opposite side of a main road (Richmond Ave for those in the know) and tracked me for half a mile before pulling me over. For tints.
And Trooper: "You are probably just jealous that his place in society grants him complete control over you"
No, I can't think of many people that are jealous of college dropouts.
#26
GTR Member
Tint laws = BS
Got nailed for them last week - rookie made a u-turn from the opposite side of a main road (Richmond Ave for those in the know) and tracked me for half a mile before pulling me over. For tints.
And Trooper: "You are probably just jealous that his place in society grants him complete control over you"
.
Got nailed for them last week - rookie made a u-turn from the opposite side of a main road (Richmond Ave for those in the know) and tracked me for half a mile before pulling me over. For tints.
And Trooper: "You are probably just jealous that his place in society grants him complete control over you"
No, I can't think of many people that are jealous of college dropouts
#27
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
http://www.pennylicious.com/2006/10/...aire-dropouts/
#28
TMS West Coast Correspondent
Join Date: October 14, 2004
Posts: 3,581
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't know where to start with my the response to rrobello's post. I'm a member of ABATE (a motorcycle action group). We didn't like the helmet laws in our state and worked within the system to have them changed. The op obviously is breaking the law with his tint (and is a law I wouldn't be happy with in my state.) The answer is to have the law changed but unless/until this happens anyone outside the scope of the tinting laws who decide to use illegal tinting is breaking the law. Go to court if you wish but circumstancial evidence will find that person in fault.
Fight the laws not the court.
Fight the laws not the court.
#29
Team Mustang Source
I know that police officers didnt make the laws that our congressman did, but who came up with the idea and why? I cant think of a single reason that any normal citizen would want to make it illegal, so that leaves politicians and police officers. Well politicians thats easy, to generate revenue, the excuse for why comes from cops as Trooper stated, they always say it was designed for the safety of the officer, so the PD had to have some effect with bringing this law about in some way. And so back to my point, which btw was meant to be over the top and a bit satirical to make a point, for generating revenue=LAME, for safety=BS. Its a stupid law period, same with the front license plate.
#30
TMS West Coast Correspondent
Join Date: October 14, 2004
Posts: 3,581
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't buy the safety=BS. While I have yet to stop a car for having tint so dark I can't see inside, I have stopped them for other violations and I can tell you for a fact that is a safety concern for me to walk up to car totally in the open not being able to see who/what or how many people are in there. You should try it sometime. Believe it or not there are some people who like to shoot at us. It's bad enough sometimes when I can see in the car much less be totally blind until a window comes down. Anyway, I'm not here to argue but, I just wanted to point out a few things. Also, a front plate really helps in finding stolen cars going the opposite direction for us patrol guys anyway.
#32
Team Mustang Source
Like I said before, that's something you need to take up with your state legislators. I've never written a tint ticket in 13yrs. Some Officers feel the need and some don't. It's the Officers discretion as to what ticket he/she writes. I have my own pet peeves and dark tint isn't one of them but, it's still an Officer safety issue and I take a different approach to the car if it's too dark for me to see inside. Most folks will roll the window down before I approach which usually allows some light inside which works for me. That way I don't feel like I'm running the gauntlet just to get to your window.
Now,, about the not stopping them for "just" dark tint. That's up to the individual Officer. Our job is inherently unsafe and we took an oath to do what it takes to do our job which sometimes means putting ourself in an unsafe situation if that makes sense.
This next part is not directed at you or anyone in particular but, A Lot of people talk themselves into a ticket and can't figure out why they got the ticket. I've had people tell me to just go ahead and write the ticket because "I'm just gonna set it for court" before I can even say anything. That was one of the nicer one's. Most of them I can't put on here. LOL.
Now,, about the not stopping them for "just" dark tint. That's up to the individual Officer. Our job is inherently unsafe and we took an oath to do what it takes to do our job which sometimes means putting ourself in an unsafe situation if that makes sense.
This next part is not directed at you or anyone in particular but, A Lot of people talk themselves into a ticket and can't figure out why they got the ticket. I've had people tell me to just go ahead and write the ticket because "I'm just gonna set it for court" before I can even say anything. That was one of the nicer one's. Most of them I can't put on here. LOL.
#33
I have a question for trooper. I understand that it is a safety issue for officers that they can not see into a car, although cali laws just suck and wont allow for any tint at all on the doors even those that you can see in, but if its a safety issue then why stop a car just for tint if you cant see in? Wouldnt it be more safe to let them go about their business if they are not breaking any other laws?
Tint laws = BS
Got nailed for them last week - rookie made a u-turn from the opposite side of a main road (Richmond Ave for those in the know) and tracked me for half a mile before pulling me over. For tints.
And Trooper: "You are probably just jealous that his place in society grants him complete control over you"
No, I can't think of many people that are jealous of college dropouts.
Got nailed for them last week - rookie made a u-turn from the opposite side of a main road (Richmond Ave for those in the know) and tracked me for half a mile before pulling me over. For tints.
And Trooper: "You are probably just jealous that his place in society grants him complete control over you"
No, I can't think of many people that are jealous of college dropouts.
To whoever it was that made the retarded statement about tint is not an officer safety issue... it's about revenue... I'm sure you live in some nice community where you aren't affected by crime... guess what genious... the world is a bad place and there are plenty of people out there that would just as soon hurt you as say hi to you. I propose this... you try to imagine what it's like to know that simply because of the job you do and the uniform you wear that there is a certain few in society that are intent on causing you serious bodily harm or death. When you are man enough to walk up to a car you can't see into at 3am, in the section of town that has a drive by or home invasion about once a week and is infested with maximum security prison families... then come talk to me about how silly you think tint laws are.
Have all the ill will you want towards Law Enforcement... the pen is mightier than the mouth... We always win
Thank you... No matter how long I'm in court I get a minimum of 3 hours OT. The 3 courts I write 90% of my tickets for are less than 10 minutes from the barracks. I live 7 minutes from the barracks. My V&T trials are almost always a quick kill because the defendant made admissions on the side of the road. It's not uncommon to be gone from my house for less than an hour and rake in 3 hours of OT. BTW... my current OT rate is $55.65 an hour and we're without a contract right now so that figure will increase when the state accepts that they are giving us more money.
#34
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
What college boy told you that?
MODERATOR: I have a question from Silicon Valley again. (Patricia Crystal ?), a teacher at James Logan High School asks, as a teacher, Students often claim that you didn't finish college; however, you're still successful. How would you address my students who make this claim?
BILL GATES: Well, when it comes to loving school, I loved school. I loved the fact that I got to meet other people who were doing interesting things. I was able to get to know my teachers and have them challenge me in particular ways.
What actually happened was I went to Harvard University and I started there, I was taking way more than a normal number of classes, and having a great time doing it. But actually the very first kit computer showed up on the cover of a magazine, it was a $360 computer called the Altair. And my friend Paul Allen had taken a job back in Boston so he could be there, and we could brainstorm about when were we going to start our software company. And so we were really worried somebody else would write software and have this vision of this personal computer as this great tool before us. And so, in fact, I finished three years of college, and it turns out if I had known that I was only going to go to three years of college, I had enough advance placement to ask that if I'd done just a few things slightly differently I could have gotten my college degree.
MODERATOR: I have a question from Silicon Valley again. (Patricia Crystal ?), a teacher at James Logan High School asks, as a teacher, Students often claim that you didn't finish college; however, you're still successful. How would you address my students who make this claim?
BILL GATES: Well, when it comes to loving school, I loved school. I loved the fact that I got to meet other people who were doing interesting things. I was able to get to know my teachers and have them challenge me in particular ways.
What actually happened was I went to Harvard University and I started there, I was taking way more than a normal number of classes, and having a great time doing it. But actually the very first kit computer showed up on the cover of a magazine, it was a $360 computer called the Altair. And my friend Paul Allen had taken a job back in Boston so he could be there, and we could brainstorm about when were we going to start our software company. And so we were really worried somebody else would write software and have this vision of this personal computer as this great tool before us. And so, in fact, I finished three years of college, and it turns out if I had known that I was only going to go to three years of college, I had enough advance placement to ask that if I'd done just a few things slightly differently I could have gotten my college degree.
#35
I don't see your point.
You know your worng, PAY THE FINE.
Stop trying to blame everyone else on your mistake. The cop was only doing his job. He doesn't write the laws, he only enforces them. That's what he's paid (by you) to do.
As for the doctor's note deal, if your eyes are that sensitive, you probably should just park your car.
Sorry, but these days seems kids are blaming everyone but themselves. Take some responsibility.
Mike
PS Shea, I don't know you, and didn't intend to single you out. I'm sure you're a very nice person. This is just symptomatic of the Y Gen.
You know your worng, PAY THE FINE.
Stop trying to blame everyone else on your mistake. The cop was only doing his job. He doesn't write the laws, he only enforces them. That's what he's paid (by you) to do.
As for the doctor's note deal, if your eyes are that sensitive, you probably should just park your car.
Sorry, but these days seems kids are blaming everyone but themselves. Take some responsibility.
Mike
PS Shea, I don't know you, and didn't intend to single you out. I'm sure you're a very nice person. This is just symptomatic of the Y Gen.
#36
Cobra Member
Join Date: February 18, 2007
Location: SE PA
Posts: 1,301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What college boy told you that?
MODERATOR: I have a question from Silicon Valley again. (Patricia Crystal ?), a teacher at James Logan High School asks, as a teacher, Students often claim that you didn't finish college; however, you're still successful. How would you address my students who make this claim?
BILL GATES: Well, when it comes to loving school, I loved school. I loved the fact that I got to meet other people who were doing interesting things. I was able to get to know my teachers and have them challenge me in particular ways.
What actually happened was I went to Harvard University and I started there, I was taking way more than a normal number of classes, and having a great time doing it. But actually the very first kit computer showed up on the cover of a magazine, it was a $360 computer called the Altair. And my friend Paul Allen had taken a job back in Boston so he could be there, and we could brainstorm about when were we going to start our software company. And so we were really worried somebody else would write software and have this vision of this personal computer as this great tool before us. And so, in fact, I finished three years of college, and it turns out if I had known that I was only going to go to three years of college, I had enough advance placement to ask that if I'd done just a few things slightly differently I could have gotten my college degree.
MODERATOR: I have a question from Silicon Valley again. (Patricia Crystal ?), a teacher at James Logan High School asks, as a teacher, Students often claim that you didn't finish college; however, you're still successful. How would you address my students who make this claim?
BILL GATES: Well, when it comes to loving school, I loved school. I loved the fact that I got to meet other people who were doing interesting things. I was able to get to know my teachers and have them challenge me in particular ways.
What actually happened was I went to Harvard University and I started there, I was taking way more than a normal number of classes, and having a great time doing it. But actually the very first kit computer showed up on the cover of a magazine, it was a $360 computer called the Altair. And my friend Paul Allen had taken a job back in Boston so he could be there, and we could brainstorm about when were we going to start our software company. And so we were really worried somebody else would write software and have this vision of this personal computer as this great tool before us. And so, in fact, I finished three years of college, and it turns out if I had known that I was only going to go to three years of college, I had enough advance placement to ask that if I'd done just a few things slightly differently I could have gotten my college degree.
http://www.komotv.com/news/microsoft/7913452.html
#37
Its like the "click it or ticket" program, yeah they say its for safety, but who cares about someones own personal safety that they as an adult decided to waive. I know its stupid to not wear a seat belt but hey if someone is that stupid then why should the government tell them not to? We do not need babysitters. They are putting absolutely no one in harms way other than themselves and besides let natural selection take its place. The real reason is to generate revenue. There are much better things a cop can be doing than making sure everyone is wearing their seatbelt IMO.
:rant off:
:rant off:
Nobody cares about your safety.
#38
Cobra Member
Join Date: February 18, 2007
Location: SE PA
Posts: 1,301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
People are so dayum egocentric. Sure, it's your decision if you don't want to wear a seatbelt. If you make the conscious decision not to wear a seatbelt then the law should be ammended such that emergency personnel and hospitals have no responsibility to scrape your sorry a s s out of your car and try to put you back together. The folks making this argument about their "right" not to wear a seatbelt are usually the first to exercise their "right" to sue everyone that comes within 20 feet of them if something goes wrong. They're entitled to $20MM because the guy struggling to pull him out of his burning car twisted his broken arm pinching a nerve so he can't feel his pinky. Of course he'll also sue the guy with the illegally tinted windows who failed to stop completely before making a right turn on red. If decide not to wear a seatbelt, then we'll just leave you in the car and you can take care of yourself. People are idiots! Enough with "rights" and entitlement! I have a right not to pay through the stinking nose for medical insurance that's inflated to cover the losses realized because of all these other idiots excercising their right to be stupid!
God you folks are firing me up today!
#39
Hhmmmm . . Lots of arguements for both sides. I personally find it a little uncomfortable as a safety issue when I am unable to make 'eye contact' with other drivers on the road especially at intersections. We all know some cops are '****s' and some aren't and some drivers are '****s' and some aren't. The problem usually comes up when a '****' cop stops a '****' driver.....