2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Saleen 302 crate engines.

I did a search, and came up with no posts on this topic.

Check this out: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/29/f...crate-engines/

Stage3 is selling two versions. One version for an S/C, and one version for without. Both versions come with a complete forged shortblock, so I think the only difference is the compression.

Here is Stage3's site: http://www.stage3motorsports.com/cat...e_performance/
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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I think there was a topic in the Special Editions section under Saleen. You may have to adjust the time frame for past posts (think its set for last 30 days. Change it to last year and it should be there, I think).

Thanks for the link. WOW is that pricey for the longblock! For that money, you can buy the 5.0L Cammer V8. Now, granted, its not emissions legal, but for those who won't get tested, who cares? Its a darn race motor, from the cars in the old Grand Am (now Koni) race series.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 05fordgt
I think there was a topic in the Special Editions section under Saleen. You may have to adjust the time frame for past posts (think its set for last 30 days. Change it to last year and it should be there, I think).

Thanks for the link. WOW is that pricey for the longblock! For that money, you can buy the 5.0L Cammer V8. Now, granted, its not emissions legal, but for those who won't get tested, who cares? Its a darn race motor, from the cars in the old Grand Am (now Koni) race series.
Aw ****. I didn't know I could do that. Sorry about the repost all.

I think I would stick with the Aluminator. I need to stay emisions legal.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 06:40 AM
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hah, emissions control.

who uses that stuff these days anyway?
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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I'd rather put a 298 stroker in my stock block. A LOT cheaper too.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustangfreak
I'd rather put a 298 stroker in my stock block. A LOT cheaper too.
I think thats the direction I will eventually go, as I want to stay N/A!
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Call me ignorant, but can someone with more knowledge explain to me a few things.

1. What is the difference between the long and short blocks motor wise... ie. Why twice the price?
2. Which is in the PJ, the long or the short?
3. If you purchased the short in either form would your heads, manifolds, pcm, other components etc be used from the stock 3V?
4. Why 2 different short blocks if both internals are forged and the same price why would one not go with the S/C version off the bat, could you not run that block in a N/A form?

Sorry for the questions but I am interested in this setup and for some reason I trust a TMSer's opinions
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by steve-o
Call me ignorant, but can someone with more knowledge explain to me a few things.

1. What is the difference between the long and short blocks motor wise... ie. Why twice the price?
2. Which is in the PJ, the long or the short?
3. If you purchased the short in either form would your heads, manifolds, pcm, other components etc be used from the stock 3V?
4. Why 2 different short blocks if both internals are forged and the same price why would one not go with the S/C version off the bat, could you not run that block in a N/A form?

Sorry for the questions but I am interested in this setup and for some reason I trust a TMSer's opinions
1. Longblocks come with heads installed, while shortblocks do not. Shortblocks mainly contain only the rotating assembly.
2. Probably the long. Again, the longblock is essentially a nearly complete engine.
3. I would assume so. Essentially, its our engine, just with more displacement. Its the standard 3V built around a 302 displacement. You might want to call Saleen on this.
4. More than likely different compression pistons. The S/C one probably contains lower compression pistons suitable for higher boost while the non-S/C version has high compression pistons, that won't work well with high boost.

Hope this helps.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:26 AM
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It helped alot, thanks so much.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by steve-o
2. Which is in the PJ, the long or the short?
Here is a write up on the PJ motor

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...ild/index.html
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Awesome read.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Awesome article! Did the PJ engine parts ever become available to the public? I wonder how much Saleen would charge to do the modification.
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