2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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There was talk of the rear tail lights being sequential when the directional is on. Were they built with this feature?
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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no, not available from the factory

There are many aftermarket kits available for the outgoing models and I am sure you can get them for the '05's

I think it is a cool mod, I might get it myself
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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sequentials are cool and will probaly cost 180-220 range
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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For the totally clueless, could you explain sequential
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Frank, sequential tailights are set up so the when you activate the turn signal, the innermost tribar lights, then the middle one is added, then the outside one last. The sequence repeats until the turn signal is cancelled.

Some of the 60s Shelby's were set up with these, as were some Mercury Cougars. Currently, they are available in aftermarket kits, as mentioned above.

I knew someone had a good avatar for this. Like these, Frank. . .
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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I've never seen sequentials on the road. Is that gif how quick they are to light up? Or is it a little quicker in succession? :scratch:
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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mine are a little quicker and they are adjustable on some kits.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Being an electrical engineer, I did it for about $5 in parts on my three-lens 1981 taillights. I’ll probably do it to my ’05.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Being an electrical engineer, I did it for about $5 in parts on my three-lens 1981 taillights. I’ll probably do it to my ’05.
A "how to" on that would be a great post.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Sharp@September 25, 2004, 11:49 PM
Being an electrical engineer, I did it for about $5 in parts on my three-lens 1981 taillights. I’ll probably do it to my ’05.
A "how to" on that would be a great post.
Definately. Post it in the Tech section whenever (especially if you do it to your new car. With pics as well would be awesome....and maybe we can sticky it or something.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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B) Not available for the 05 yet. Here is reply I got back in late July:
John and Donna,
We recently participated in an R&D session with Ford on the '05. One of the more discouraging things we learned about was the electrical system. In the newest version of the car, there is a "smart" junction box which the engineers on the car advise us is something we do not want to modify. What this means to you is that they literally laughed when asked about installing an aftermarket kit for sequential taillights. At this time we are taking them at their word and holding off on this product until we also have our hands on one and can see for ourselves what the deal is.
On that same front, we are going forward on working on some billet and other items that will help dress up some of the areas we felt were a little plain.
Keep in touch and we'll let you know when we are closer on these items.
Thanks again for your patience.
Toby Stauch

http://www.sequentialtaillights.com/mustani.html
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by woody1@September 25, 2004, 10:21 PM
B) Not available for the 05 yet. Here is reply I got back in late July:
John and Donna,
We recently participated in an R&D session with Ford on the '05. One of the more discouraging things we learned about was the electrical system. In the newest version of the car, there is a "smart" junction box which the engineers on the car advise us is something we do not want to modify. What this means to you is that they literally laughed when asked about installing an aftermarket kit for sequential taillights. At this time we are taking them at their word and holding off on this product until we also have our hands on one and can see for ourselves what the deal is.
On that same front, we are going forward on working on some billet and other items that will help dress up some of the areas we felt were a little plain.
Keep in touch and we'll let you know when we are closer on these items.
Thanks again for your patience.
Toby Stauch

http://www.sequentialtaillights.com/mustani.html
I wouldn't worry about it much. If it is something that seems like it will sell well then a good aftermarket company will figure out how to do it.

Even though Ford engineers think they may have made something "unmodable" doesn't mean they did.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Yeah, engineers can be a little overzealous about their own product sometimes.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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Ah … an electrical challenge. I’ve never met a set of taillights I couldn’t hack. There’s an advantage to modifying your own car in your own garage. The trick might be to let the system think it’s lighting the normal lights while substituting a second set of sequentially driven sockets in the tail lenses. The trick would be to have all bulbs light upon braking, but sequence only on turn signals. The 1980s were a much simpler time. I’ll have to check out the ’05 when I get it. I have a garage hack in mind no matter how sophisticated the electrical system is. Hey, it just electrons. I guarantee I can do it - but sharing that info may have some legal ramifications.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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i would do this mod for $5 but i wouldnt spend more than $50 for this
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Not sharing that info may have some harassing e-mail ramifications.

Not from me, of course... I won't even begin thinking of new Mustang mods for at least a year. :bang:
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 01:44 AM
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Can't wait till CDC (Classic Design Concepts) puts one out for the 05 soon. Might have to wait for SEMA.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by Paris MkVI@September 25, 2004, 7:39 PM
Frank, sequential tailights are set up so the when you activate the turn signal, the innermost tribar lights, then the middle one is added, then the outside one last. The sequence repeats until the turn signal is cancelled.

Some of the 60s Shelby's were set up with these, as were some Mercury Cougars. Currently, they are available in aftermarket kits, as mentioned above.

I knew someone had a good avatar for this. Like these, Frank. . .
sweet, thanks for educating
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by 69Mach1@September 26, 2004, 1:28 AM
i would do this mod for $5 but i wouldnt spend more than $50 for this
I have them on my Cobra, I'd have no problem myself if it cost $200 to overide this new system. B)
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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I definately want to do this mod. I wanted to do it to my 97 GT but never got around to it. If I could do this for $5.00, heck even for $100 to do it myself I would, if I knew how. Since I don't I'd be willing to buy a kit.
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