2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

Q on CAI

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:27 PM
  #1  
dac64's Avatar
Thread Starter
GT Member
 
Joined: January 19, 2007
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Q on CAI

Brand new stock 08 GT/CS. Can I put a K&N CAI without worrying about the car's computer, or would I need to purchase something else to adjust the tuning of the car?

thanks!
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:56 PM
  #2  
MustangRetribution's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 23, 2007
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
they have cai that are supposedly useable without a tune. Its my opinion though that its possible to still run to lean, which makes me decidedly uncomfortable
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:59 PM
  #3  
dac64's Avatar
Thread Starter
GT Member
 
Joined: January 19, 2007
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
New to this stuff, what is ment by running to lean?
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:05 PM
  #4  
MustangRetribution's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 23, 2007
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
Running lean means you arn't getting enough fuel mixed for the amount of air comming in.
Extremely lean fuel mixtures can also burn spark plugs and pistons and contribute to engine-damaging conditions such as detonation and preignition.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:06 PM
  #5  
dac64's Avatar
Thread Starter
GT Member
 
Joined: January 19, 2007
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Noted.

Any damage because of this?
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:09 PM
  #6  
MustangRetribution's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 23, 2007
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
yeah sorry realized I was being to vague so I edited and elaborated.

also I should add that Im not saying it will happen, i just rather not take the risk
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:13 PM
  #7  
dac64's Avatar
Thread Starter
GT Member
 
Joined: January 19, 2007
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
That doesnt sound like it is worth the risk.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:15 PM
  #8  
LEO_06GT's Avatar
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: May 24, 2006
Posts: 7,409
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
I ran my K&N intake for 3 months before I got the tune. No problems here. A big company like K&N wouldn't advertise no tune if it required one. With that said if you have the money just buy a C&L or JLT with Tune.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:17 PM
  #9  
MustangRetribution's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 23, 2007
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
I could be overly paranoid as I havent heard anyone having this problem with non tune cai but spending near 300 dollars, whats another 300 dollars for a sct2 and a tune from brenspeed or whatever place you prefer and then any other future upgrades you may desire that may require a tune, well you already have a tuner
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 07:11 PM
  #10  
slipnotovk's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: June 28, 2006
Posts: 780
Likes: 0
From: Staten Island, NY
ive had my K&N in there w/o a tune for over a year and i have had ZERO problems. just couldnt afford the tuner so i went with K&N and it did improve acceleration but you wont be getting the other advantages a tuner will give you.

but as for the K&N, no problems here what-so-ever
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 08:01 PM
  #11  
karman's Avatar
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
 
Joined: January 4, 2006
Posts: 3,904
Likes: 32
My K&N ran RICH without a tune.
Might cause carbon fouling, but no serious damage.
I only ran it that way for about 2000 miles, no problems or codes though.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 01:53 AM
  #12  
mhk's Avatar
mhk
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: October 30, 2004
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
No problems here with K&N, tune or no tune. Improves the sound as well.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 09:27 PM
  #13  
dac64's Avatar
Thread Starter
GT Member
 
Joined: January 19, 2007
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Thanks for all the info guys!

ok...I have decided to purchase both the CIA and tuner. My next question is, which CIA and tuner is best?

Thanks!
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 06:47 AM
  #14  
Mayito514's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: October 1, 2006
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Miami
Take a look at Modular Depot's new CAI, Ken has done a terrific job with it.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 07:07 AM
  #15  
302svt's Avatar
Cobra Member
 
Joined: October 26, 2006
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 0
CAI and Tuner is the only way to go if you have the funds. It also makes the car a lot more drivable.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 05:41 PM
  #16  
karman's Avatar
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
 
Joined: January 4, 2006
Posts: 3,904
Likes: 32
Originally Posted by dac64
Thanks for all the info guys!

ok...I have decided to purchase both the CIA and tuner. My next question is, which CIA and tuner is best?

Thanks!
Don't use the CIA !!! They might report you to the EPA.
The best bang for the buck is the JLT II.
A local Dyno tune is the best, but Bamachips or Brenspeed can give you a good tune (sometimes even perfect). It is just nice to know what your A/F ratio is because too lean can hurt the engine and too rich can foul it. Each engine is just a hair different from the next. If you can make it to a dyno and get good readings the good tuners can e-mail you a re-adjusted tune even if the dyno guy doesn't know how.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:06 PM
  #17  
SONICBOOST's Avatar
Super Boss Lawman Member
 
Joined: January 17, 2006
Posts: 4,148
Likes: 3
From: Temecula,CA
Originally Posted by dac64
Thanks for all the info guys!

ok...I have decided to purchase both the CIA and tuner. My next question is, which CIA and tuner is best?

Thanks!
jlt/sct combo. I got mine from bamachips and I love it. I have had it on there for about a year without any problems. One of the cheapest cai and produces the most hp gains.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
14_GT/CS
2011 - 2014 GT/CS
12
Mar 24, 2016 12:20 PM
MustangConvert11
'10-14 V6 Modifications
2
Sep 30, 2015 08:01 PM
exgto
2012-2013 BOSS 302
5
Sep 28, 2015 07:39 PM
Stephen Laslo
V6
4
Sep 18, 2015 07:57 PM
TripleBlack14
2010-2014 Mustang
4
Sep 17, 2015 07:48 AM




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:13 PM.