Earlier post saids have said SVT will come out in August 2006 as a 2007 model. Is it coming earlier now or is MotorTrend misinformed.

 

maybe they drove a manual, but didn't get enough time with it to strap on all their test gear.

 

Sorry, the filters got the word 'suks' turns it to 'stinks'

Autos suk more juice to turn the wheels than manuals. (more parasitic loss)
Hence the 'lower' auto RWHP numbers.

They are normal, not 'low/underpowered'

 

Don't tease me..... :nono:

 

The 350z won't even come close in the quarter or 0-60.

The real test in the track. I have a feeling it'll still lose there as well (but by a smaller proportion than it loses in a straight line). Thai-Tang said the GT was only 0.5 sec behind an M3 on the road course. The Z handles at least as well as the M3 but has a power disadvantage to both the 05 and M3. Gotta wait till all the tests are out to confirm this.

Either way at a stoplight, the G35, 350z and LT1's will be blown away and the GTO will be edged out and the LS1 will be given a run for their money.

 

Good Point Dan. The GT is handicapped by its tires. 235/55/17 All season tires aren't good for handling and/or road racing. A nice lightweight rim with 285mm max performance tires, such as Kumho MX's, would really wake up the cars handling. The M3 and 350Z come with sticky summer only tires from the factory. I am really excited to read how well the car handles.

 

So, What times do you all think a manual 05 GT will run its 1/4 at? Will it be faster than an auto?

 

Goodness, that torque curve looks depressing
Hope to see a pair of long tubes and mid-pipe really wake this car up on the top end.

 

Why did MT say this when they tested an automatic? Is it just poetic license? [/b][/quote]
I think they drove two cars (manual and auto) but were only able to instrumented performance data on the auto (at least that what's I got reading between the lines).

 

"Who cares about things fitting right and working reliably? WE'VE GOT POWER!"

What amazes me is that they're comparing a GT to a 350Z. They're different car classes and have about a $10,000 difference between them. I mean, they both have two doors and are RWD, but that's really where the similarity ends. If anything, compare it to a GTO or something. At least that has a backseat.

 

I think they drove two cars (manual and auto) but were only able to instrumented performance data on the auto (at least that what's I got reading between the lines). [/b][/quote]
I agree long headers or even mid ought to wake up the top end on this baby

 

Goodness, that torque curve looks depressing
Hope to see a pair of long tubes and mid-pipe really wake this car up on the top end. [/b][/quote]
watch carefully, the graph is starting at 4000rpm

 

Oh, stick with the five speed. Everyone is yelling at me for getting auto. This is my suggestion, learn how to drive stick in your friends truck on a back road with lots of hills...That's the way I learned. But then (at least I think) once you drive stick in a car it's so much easier cause the shifters are shorter. I'm a lot smoother at it.

Plus, it's true, sticks are more fun...Also...I heard the manual is much louder than the auto.

I don't know, I wish I would have gone manual sometimes but the with the traffic here sometimes, auto is just more convienent.

 

watch carefully, the graph is starting at 4000rpm [/b][/quote]
Exactly. I think its pretty good.

 

watch carefully, the graph is starting at 4000rpm [/b][/quote]
Exactly.

The torque curve falls by only 60 lb-ft over a 2000rpm range, approximately. This plot they did starts near the torque PEAK. A torque curve that only loses about 20% of it's punch in the final 2000rpm of the available tach? Not bad for a factory motor.

 

The 350z won't even come close in the quarter or 0-60.

The real test in the track. I have a feeling it'll still lose there as well (but by a smaller proportion than it loses in a straight line). Thai-Tang said the GT was only 0.5 sec behind an M3 on the road course. The Z handles at least as well as the M3 but has a power disadvantage to both the 05 and M3. Gotta wait till all the tests are out to confirm this.

Either way at a stoplight, the G35, 350z and LT1's will be blown away and the GTO will be edged out and the LS1 will be given a run for their money. [/b][/quote]
Yes, that was the first think I'm celebrating, however Nissan is increasing the HP to 300 for the Track model in 2005, but it will cost $34k, and even with 300hp I don't think the Z will be able to pull this numbers with just 13hp increase.

 

All I have to say is that I am in shock, after reading those Motor Trend numbers!!
I thought Ford was going to fumble the ball, but they scored a Touchdown instead!!
I was hoping the Manual 5 speed would reach those numbers, but to have an Automatic run those numbers is just insane!
5.1 0-60 with an Automatic, is faster then my friends new GTO! And the GT has 50 less HP compared to the GTO too! All I can say is WOW!
Can't wait to see other test!

 

Yes, that was the first think I'm celebrating, however Nissan is increasing the HP to 300 for the Track model in 2005, but it will cost $34k, and even with 300hp I don't think the Z will be able to pull this numbers with just 13hp increase.

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Nope.....05 will still own in the quarter, but the track will be closer. I have no idea what the gap will be.

 

35 thou and only 300 hp, that seems weak to me.

All hail the '05!!

 

It just means that Ford is continuing to offer value in the Mustang, which has been there for a long time. Even during the Fbody wars of the 80's and 90's, the one thing the Mustang always had going for it was that is was cheaper than the competition.