Well guys, I read all of your posts. One thing though thats mmissing.

THEY LIED FOR THE PAST 4 MONTHS.

When I ordered from Marshall Ford East in Mayfield in June, I was also talking with Mullinax Ford. BOTH offered me $500 over, But Mullinax had already taken two orders and Marshall had taken none. So, naturally I went with Marshall to be frist in line., as well as we've always gone there and I thought we could get ti for even less then that.

I called the guy I talked to at Mullinax today. He said his 2 '05 Stangs are going for $500 over invoice, just as he promised me. He told me I'd get mine for $300 over if I ordered and went with him.

So we called Marshall. I told them I had a printout I had made of many customers from here that got it for $500 over invoice and I jsut was offered a $300 over.

Magically, "Negotiation" is now open. So Monday were going in again to talk.

I put trust in them. And they screwed me over.

Put yourself in my shoes. I've wanted a Mustang for as long as I could remmebr, YEARS before I could even drive. I started to save when I was 10, with cash I got for Christmas and Birthday's and cutting lawns. I didnt buy myself ANYTHING like a CD for close to 3 years until I got a job. I was shooting for my 16th birthday to buy a Mustang, but then the concept 2005 came out so I waited even longer. Now Its a week away from being mine. This car is more than just a possession to me. Its the compilation of 7 years of hard work and patience and persistence. And I will not tolerate being lied too and being screwed over a week away from my dream coming true. No way.

Someone will end up very scared if I don't get my way on this.

 

Do you or anyone in your family knows anyone that works for Ford that can get you an X-Plan? Maybe even a friend of a friend? It was hard, but that's how I got mine.

Or how about joining AAA? I was looking at their website and it seems that you can get below invoice pricing if you go through one of their preferred dealerships. There's a thread about this already. Here's a link where you can build one and see what kind of price you may get. AAA - Mid-Atlantic

 

Mullinax for $500 over Inv... sounds like I'm going to be able to negotiate with my dealer finally. (Not like he knew ANYTHING about the Mustang to start with...)

Good luck

 

Chardon Ohio is up by Cleveland. There are probably a dozen dealers within driving distance (a couple hours). Down to Canton, Pitt, Columbus, Akron, etc.... start going elsewhere. Make your calls, etc., but if you reward bad behavior it just encourages it.

 

Each dealer has a right to set the price as he chooses. You also have the right to walk away too. Shop around and drive a little if need be. Supply and Demand rules here. Right now it's Demand, but supply will catch up soon enough. Reputation means more to some dealers than others.

 

Sounds to me like the salesman knows EXACTLY who he's messing with. A 17 year old kid without enough negotiating experience to know when to walk away. You've already claimed that you refuse to walk away, and you "need the car ASAP". The salesman would be a fool not to make you pay top dollar.

 

The problem is you get stuck driving Nikes then

 

Exactly, when was the last time you negotiated money off your purchases at the Mall. So people get upset about paying retail for one car every 5 years while they get 'ripped' of THOUSANDS of times a year for everything else

Like the saying goes......."if you have to ask"..........

 

Kaka to that whole "it's OK to be bent over" routine. When was the last time you paid full price for any large appliance, etc.? Manufacturers put large margins on things knowing that everyone is going to discount them (that's padded in). But there's enough in kickbacks or hidden incentives that most dealers can let the car go at invoice and still come out ahead -- and certainly being willing to pay $500 or $1000 over invoice is plenty for everyone to get a fair cut. Full MSRP is just gouging.

Plus this wasn't about that -- this was about a dealer changing the deal. That's far worse. They agree to something, and they changed it. You can either support such bad business ethics (by buying anyways), or not (by going somewhere else, or pressuring them to do right). But there's little room for compromise; you either live by your word, and try to get others to, or you say that ethics/morals don't matter and rationalize it away (thus rewarding them for their bad behavior).

I'd drive 200 miles to make a fair deal, rather than take a raw one and reward bad practices and be a stinker. More than that, if you can't learn to be a mature consumer and delay gratification and make good business deals, you'll always be a stinker. So you're setting up a pattern for life. (Our actions define us, and ruts we build by our actions are hard to get out of). In a few years, you will be proud of yourself for waiting and being smart and doing right, or you'll probably be ashamed of yourself or frustrated that you let yourself get screwed and did nothing about it. The choice is yours.

 

P.S. that was stinkEr (S-u-c-k-e-r) not stinker. My word was the right term, and not offensive. I hate these word substituters.

 

I've said this before...and I'll say it again...

I'll tell you what's wrong with paying MSRP...Because You can get it SIGNIFICANTLY Cheaper by going to another dealer who isn't trying to prey on the unknowlegeable.

Let me ask you this. If you were going to buy a car (other than ford) would you walk into a dealership and just accept their MSRP price? I don't think so.

 

Mods don't like it when you bypass their filters, even though it's insulting to the members of the forum that we can't see some of the words that are filtered. We're all adults, right?

By the way, dke, I love your posts.

 

RE: TheGoalie, "By the way, dke, I love your posts."

Thanks. I just wish I'd heeded the same advice I'm giving when I was given it (years ago). I hope it doesn't come across preachy. There have been plenty of times I didn't listen to the little voice, and later wished I had; so consider it the voice of experience ;-). I'm posting as much to remind myself of what I value, and give some sage advice, not to try to tell others how to live their life.

And it is all about balance. I want a darned Mustang NOW! But I negotiate with myself. I can buy a GT now, or buy (or order) a Cobra or other SE in a year or so when it comes out. That kind of negotiating with myself. I'd do the same in the bad-deal agreement; "if I'm patient, I'm not only doing right, but I can spend that extra $2,000 and get myself some killer wheels" or something else I want as well as the car. It makes it a little easier to be patient. Not much -- but a little.