2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old 12/30/07, 03:49 PM
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need a new mod...

i know its hard to believe but im getting alittle bored with my car and i need a new mod. trying to decide on one of the following and im having a hard time deciding

- Hurst short throw shifter
- Offroad H-pipe (probably pypes)
- Steeda ultralites
- OR save some money and go for a tuner from brenspeed

any advice would be great. thanks guys
Old 12/30/07, 03:55 PM
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Get the HURST!!
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Tuner or hurst would generate the most obvious change, which is usually a good thing.
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If you don't have a tune yet, get the tuner- it is the best mod you can do for these cars.
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If your going to get a shifter get the best one and buy a MGW.
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Well, I have/had them all except for the ultralites. The shifter will get you alot of compliments, esp from older crowds(i.e. old school hot-rod). I like the hurst myself.


Tuning does wonders for the cars drivability wise. You lose prob 90% of the throttle lag, and really wakes the car up.

I'm still running the pypes ORH. Louder than the Prochamber, a little raspier, but sounds good. You'll need to have the rear 02 sensors programmed out or get simulators, otherwise you'll get a SES light. Hence where the tuning starts to become a factor in all of your other mods to come.
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Id go for the Hurst first, then the tuner.
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Originally Posted by tom281
If you don't have a tune yet, get the tuner- it is the best mod you can do for these cars.
+1 Go for the tuner and cai combo.
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Get the tuner and cold air combo from Brenspeed.
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Def get the tuner/tune. 2nd would be the Pypes Off road.
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going to start savin for that tuner!!!

ive been thinking about it for so long and i think its definetely the way to go. now if i only saved my uniform allowance from work for the tuner and NOT a new snowboard id be in business. o well.

should i get a new CAI or can i use the K&N that i already have on there?
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I would start with the ultralites, I love mine...
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Originally Posted by slipnotovk
going to start savin for that tuner!!!

ive been thinking about it for so long and i think its definetely the way to go. now if i only saved my uniform allowance from work for the tuner and NOT a new snowboard id be in business. o well.

should i get a new CAI or can i use the K&N that i already have on there?
You can keep the K&N and just get a custom tune
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you could definitely keep the K&N drop-in filter and get the tune. That's one of my set-ups and it does make a difference, it'll feel almost like a different car. On the other hand, with the CAI you're looking at a whole different beast! In the mean time, while you're saving for whichever route you go, get the Steeda urethane shifter bushings. $23 shipped, 1 hour to install, and is so much better than stock. I've still got them installed on mine.
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Custom tune, the way to go. It will be a different car.
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Take my approach that very few dare to do. Instead of buying tune files, buy SCT's software that will allow you to create your own. Learn about it from experimenting AND from tuners who are experienced. Basically understand what makes your car tick.

I believe the apprehension of most to take this approach is a result of either not wanting to know the internal workings of their own car because:

1) Lack of time, or
2) The unwillingness to learn new things, especially something as "intimidating" as tuning an OBDII vehicle. It's NOT that intimidating folks...

But in the long run, you'll be able to tweak every parameter for every future mod without having to rely on a tuner that might not be able to create a new file for you when you need it.

Whatever you decide, know that each and every car is different. Therefore, each and every car needs a unique tune file that can only be created in person on that car. I took this approach on my Whippled '05 GT. In fact, once I've put on some miles on my '08 GT500, the FIRST thing I'm going to do is tune it -- before ANY bolt-ons.

So if you buy a number of files from a tuner, know that they come from a "catalog" of files that other guys have purchased. Once uploading these files to your car, you'll most likely be able to say the car responds better, feels stronger, etc..... BUT there is no way you'll know 100 percent that it's the BEST for your car UNLESS you do it yourself. Doing this yourself will NOT require a dyno but a wide-band O2 sensor and the ability to datalog and understand what to look for.

This is my approach and most likely the reason why my car is just a "bit" quicker than Joe Blow's car with the same mods. So go ahead and take the advise of others and buy a custom (haha) tune file. I'll be just a "bit" quicker than you too. Seriously, as time passes, more and more of us will be writing our own tune files. History has proven this to be fact on older performance cars and will inevitably happen with ours. The question becomes; Do you want to be a forerunner to this process like me?

I've been exposed to this car for only 14 months now and I'm willing to bet that I know more about how these cars work than 98 percent of current owners. Would you like to be one of the two percent like me?
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Originally Posted by Willie
So if you buy a number of files from a tuner, know that they come from a "catalog" of files that other guys have purchased. Once uploading these files to your car, you'll most likely be able to say the car responds better, feels stronger, etc..... BUT there is no way you'll know 100 percent that it's the BEST for your car UNLESS you do it yourself. Doing this yourself will NOT require a dyno but a wide-band O2 sensor and the ability to datalog and understand what to look for.

This is my approach and most likely the reason why my car is just a "bit" quicker than Joe Blow's car with the same mods. So go ahead and take the advise of others and buy a custom (haha) tune file. I'll be just a "bit" quicker than you too. Seriously, as time passes, more and more of us will be writing our own tune files. History has proven this to be fact on older performance cars and will inevitably happen with ours. The question becomes; Do you want to be a forerunner to this process like me?
NOW FOR THE NEW LOW PRICE OF $39.99 YOU CAN KNOW TOO!! Sorry...just reminded me of an infomercial. I agree with you on this point. I got the mail order tune and saw a big difference, but when I got the car dyno tuned I saw a 17hp gain (272-->289)
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Originally Posted by slipnotovk
going to start savin for that tuner!!!

ive been thinking about it for so long and i think its definetely the way to go. now if i only saved my uniform allowance from work for the tuner and NOT a new snowboard id be in business. o well.

should i get a new CAI or can i use the K&N that i already have on there?
You can def. keep the K&N like some1 said but i would suggest a new CAI. I have a K&N also right now w/ a custom tube but it isn't producing the type of HP #'s i would have if i had a JLT 2 or a C&L cai.
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With that being said i'm going to be getting a new CAI in the next couple weeks and a new tune. K&N is a great CAI for the "no tune" option tho!
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NOW FOR THE NEW LOW PRICE OF $39.99 YOU CAN KNOW TOO!!

No, it's $29.99 with ten minutes of tech support.... LIMITED QUANTITIES AVAILABLE but only if you call within the next ten minutes.

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