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Old 12/11/04 | 06:01 PM
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Well I have been doin alot of thinking about the problems that are being reported on the new Mustangs... The problems reported are to be expected of all new cars... whether they are import or domestic! I am still in highschool and i have alot of friends who have gotten brand spankin new cars.. most of them expensive cars too... Audi a4s, bmws, volvos and volkswagons... and i know many who have had their cars in the shops from the day they bought them pretty much... For example...

I have a friend who received a new volkswagon toureg and the car had to be put in the shop for some reason... the car stayed in the shop for 2 months... finally the people called him and said he was going to need a new car! Hes just now getting his new car 4 months later...

My other friend with an audi a4 has had his car in the shop for 2 months and they keep having to order new parts...

Other friend with volkswagon jetta has had his brand new car in the shop for months also...

So these are only a few instances but these cars arent first year cars like the 05 stang... so problems are to be expected with whatever u buy no matter what year... Do not let the fact that it is a first year car cause u to not get the car of ur dreams because this car is the car that makes dreams come true... Happy Motoring! B)
Old 12/11/04 | 07:46 PM
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if they are still in high school they are

A: spoiled biatches

B: need to learn the value of a buck

C: havent done anything in life to deserve it


not saying theyre not fabulous people

mind you this is if theyre still in high school if not disregard

they spoiled kids are the ones that usually drive like they didnt pay for it....cuz they didnt...normal traffic rules dont matter to theyre 1337 skillz ..like stop signs...and signlaing
Old 12/11/04 | 07:59 PM
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For the most part, Ford puts out excellent products. Mustangs, T-Birds, and F-150s are very reliable and low maintenance. That some kinks always appear and have to be worked out is a fact. If either one of the Mustang models were what I was waiting for, I would not hesitate, other than to wait a few months for better pricing and rebates. I would not be concerned with the problems because I know Ford resolves them. Ford like any other company wants quality, customer satisfaction, and to make money. Their success depends on it.

I've had 10 Mustangs and 2 F-150s since 1982 with two mechanical failures and three cosmetics complaints. None of us want problems, but we have a tendency to put more emphasis on problems than we do on satisfaction.
Old 12/11/04 | 08:05 PM
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spoiled yes maybe their dads all work for the Mississippi Gov... one dad is an attorney general... but thats not the point... their cars had to go into shop a month after ha ving them because of engine failure... the way they drive have nuthing to do with it unless they just burn up the engine which isnt the case cause i know the guys very well and they are safe drivers... so ur entitled to ur opinion... spoiled but not bad drivers
Old 12/11/04 | 08:06 PM
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But yes they have done stuff in life to deserve it... they graduated from Jackson Preparatory school the hardest school in the state with streight As all the way through high school... so i think that deserves something...
Old 12/11/04 | 08:16 PM
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Straight "A"s in high school qualifies you to do well in LIFE...and go to a college of your choice - it does NOT qualify you for a Touraeg. A $50K vehicle should NOT be a bribe to get good grades in school...sorry.

No wonder we have such a spoiled, self-absorbed culture in North America. No values being taught - like working hard and earning your way to college...and a good job...and a nice car...

But, I digress...

The vehicles you mentioned all come from the Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche conglomerate - and VWs and Audis are NOTORIOUSLY unreliable. If they'd been Lexus' you wouldn't be hearing those stories, guaranteed.
Old 12/11/04 | 08:34 PM
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The issue here is the cars not whether or not the highschool kids are spoiled, but for the most part if you could afford to buy your kid a nice car you probably would too. Secondly, my family has owned a few fast-food restaurants and we usually don't get people who have money want to work for us, instead we get mostly poor, and let me tell ya, those who are poor can be just as spoiled and self-absorbed as people who have things handed to them on a silver platter, and there are just as many poor spoiled self-absorbed as there are rich....

So... how bout these Mustangs!!!
Old 12/11/04 | 08:39 PM
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Did anyone notice the grammar and spelling in the posts? I know some of it is weblsang, like "ur", but "streight"? Thats not a typo, thats uneducated.

As for his post, he is right, you cant expect any manufacturer to be 100% free of problems on all models. Doesnt help the frustration and disappointment of having your brand new $25+K car in the shop for anything not the owners fault.
Old 12/11/04 | 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by jcopin@December 11, 2004, 8:49 PM
if they are still in high school they are

A: spoiled biatches

B: need to learn the value of a buck

C: havent done anything in life to deserve it


not saying theyre not fabulous people

mind you this is if theyre still in high school if not disregard

they spoiled kids are the ones that usually drive like they didnt pay for it....cuz they didnt...normal traffic rules dont matter to theyre 1337 skillz ..like stop signs...and signlaing
hey man i hope thats not directed towards me!! im still in HS and im buying the a GT all on my own. ALL ON MY OWN. and i definitely learned the value of a dollar. ohh sorry it isnt directed toward me cuz im working soo hard and its gonna pay off. im soo happy with what im doin and my decision. knock on wood for me guys. and ps i drive very well i stop completely. i wanna enjoy my teen years driving. not having a revolked license
Old 12/11/04 | 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by z71mudder199@December 11, 2004, 9:09 PM
But yes they have done stuff in life to deserve it... they graduated from Jackson Preparatory school the hardest school in the state with streight As all the way through high school... so i think that deserves something...
no, they have not done anything to just be given a car. EVERYONE, for the most part has graduated from high school, so big deal. They should not be given a brand new car no matter what the circumstances. They should have to work for it, and PAY for it themselves, instead of havin their daddy pay for it because he can.

It really makes me mad when people in high school are just given handouts, it doesnt teach the kid anything about life.

Im only 20 and will soon be the proud owner of a Mustang GT, but guess who's footin the bill, ME. I worked full time throughout high school and still graduated with almost straight A's but i did not expect a hand out for it.
Old 12/11/04 | 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by z71mudder199@December 11, 2004, 9:08 PM
"their cars had to go into shop a month after ha ving them because of engine failure... "
who forgot to tell the kids... you have to change the oil.....
and don't put sugar in the gas tank.... that doesn't really make the car sweet!!!!
Old 12/11/04 | 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by z71mudder199@December 11, 2004, 8:04 PM
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I have a friend who received a new volkswagon ... the car stayed in the shop for 2 months

My other friend with an audi a4 has had his car in the shop for 2 months

Other friend with volkswagon jetta has had his brand new car in the shop for months also

Hmmm, all of these guys have two things in common:

1) They all drive foreign cars
2) They all know Justin

Perhaps Justin has it in for foreign cars ...

Good thing he likes Fords!
Old 12/11/04 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by jcopin@December 11, 2004, 8:49 PM
if they are still in high school they are

A: spoiled biatches

B: need to learn the value of a buck

C: havent done anything in life to deserve it


not saying theyre not fabulous people

mind you this is if theyre still in high school if not disregard

they spoiled kids are the ones that usually drive like they didnt pay for it....cuz they didnt...normal traffic rules dont matter to theyre 1337 skillz ..like stop signs...and signlaing
It's always good to drive like you stole it every once in awhile.
Old 12/11/04 | 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by jcopin@December 11, 2004, 8:49 PM
if they are still in high school they are

A: spoiled biatches

B: need to learn the value of a buck

C: havent done anything in life to deserve it


not saying theyre not fabulous people

mind you this is if theyre still in high school if not disregard

they spoiled kids are the ones that usually drive like they didnt pay for it....cuz they didnt...normal traffic rules dont matter to theyre 1337 skillz ..like stop signs...and signlaing
Stop hating people b/c they are more fortunate than you!

Negativity and envy are pathetic emotions, usually dispensed by pathetic people!

So SHUT UP!
Old 12/11/04 | 10:01 PM
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SilverBull, your expending a lot of emotion on these posts. Maybe you should take some long deep breaths before posting... how about counting to 10 first???

As for the comments you made... how do you know that these kids are more fortunate than the person you are quoting? You dont, and thus you are ASSUMING, and then saying they are pathetic.

Edited to fix my PATHETIC attempts at typing... LOL
Old 12/11/04 | 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by silverbull271@December 11, 2004, 10:59 PM
Negativity and envy are pathetic emotions, usually dispensed by pathetic people!

So SHUT UP!
whats with the flames. maybe u need to relax "mr im better than everyone". its totally true. kids drive around in these cars like they bought it yet the treat it like crap. me, im buying my own cuz i chose to work for it. my parents gave me a car and i said u know what i need to learn some responsibility soo im working for it. lemme ask u did u buy ur mach1(if u did then hats off to u) or was it given to u :notnice: and go flame elsewhere wn3d:
Old 12/11/04 | 10:03 PM
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Welcome to the typical "entitlement" society of the modern age....
Old 12/11/04 | 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by silverbull271@December 11, 2004, 10:59 PM
Negativity and envy are pathetic emotions, usually dispensed by pathetic people!
LOL!!! Oh the irony...
Old 12/11/04 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by silverbull271+December 11, 2004, 10:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (silverbull271 @ December 11, 2004, 10:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jcopin@December 11, 2004, 8:49 PM
if they are still in high school they are

A: spoiled biatches

B: need to learn the value of a buck

C: havent done anything in life to deserve it


not saying theyre not fabulous people

mind you this is if theyre still in high school if not disregard

they spoiled kids are the ones that usually drive like they didnt pay for it....cuz they didnt...normal traffic rules dont matter to theyre 1337 skillz ..like stop signs...and signlaing
Stop hating people b/c they are more fortunate than you!

Negativity and envy are pathetic emotions, usually dispensed by pathetic people!

So SHUT UP! [/b][/quote]
keep in mind you wont always be so fortunate. What happens when your parents quit paying for everything "you" own? You wont know what to do to make a living because you have been so dependant on your parents, so my advice to anyone that may fall into this spoiled category, is become self sufficient, and quit relying on mommy and daddy.
Old 12/11/04 | 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by RaGsHoCkEy88+December 11, 2004, 9:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RaGsHoCkEy88 @ December 11, 2004, 9:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jcopin@December 11, 2004, 8:49 PM
if they are still in high school they are

A: spoiled biatches

B: need to learn the value of a buck

C: havent done anything in life to deserve it


not saying theyre not fabulous people

mind you this is if theyre still in high school if not disregard

they spoiled kids are the ones that usually drive like they didnt pay for it....cuz they didnt...normal traffic rules dont matter to theyre 1337 skillz ..like stop signs...and signlaing
hey man i hope thats not directed towards me!! im still in HS and im buying the a GT all on my own. ALL ON MY OWN. and i definitely learned the value of a dollar. ohh sorry it isnt directed toward me cuz im working soo hard and its gonna pay off. im soo happy with what im doin and my decision. knock on wood for me guys. and ps i drive very well i stop completely. i wanna enjoy my teen years driving. not having a revolked license [/b][/quote]
no it was NOT directed towards you


you earned it

you appreciate it

cuz ur bustin ur hiney every day for it

it was directed towards the fabulous children that are so special that daddy couldnt bear to see them sweat so he bought them a car


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