358 days to be exact....
from autoblog

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/14/d...ontario-plant/

 

sorry if I posted this in the wrong place, or if it had already been posted elsewhere

 

In '72 i bought a '71 RT, it had the 383 in it. That thing was a blast, if it were not for the ADM that will be put on it, i would get one in a heart beat. It was the same color as the one in these pic's with the R/T stripe down the side.

 

lets hope we get a nice HP bump in the Stang to compete

 

425hp and 4800lbs...It'll probably move about the same as the current GT

 

All I can say is drool....drool. There is official word now of a 6.4 hemi with over 500 hp that will go into the Challenger.

I will buy one when the market cools off, or somebody has to sell their 3 month old Challenger that they cannot afford.

As much as I love my Mustang, I know she'll be gone in a couple years and replaced with a Challenger.

 

It will not weigh 4,800 lbs, closer to what the GT500 weighs actually. Moreover, a stock 4,300 lb SRT8 is quicker than our stock GT's despite 3.08 rear ends, power robbing ESP, and automatics.

Remove the auto, tall gears,ESP, and a couple hundred pounds and you have a pretty farn fast car. Should be a high 12 car easy. Of course, whenthe 6.4 hemo finds it's way in there, it will be a complete animal.

 

i'm sure he was kidding about the 4800lbs.

But it will not be as light as the mustang but i'm willing to bet it will be faster then the GT in the 1/4 mile but very doubtful on a road course.

 

I like it. Fear not. Anytime I mention liking another car, my wife says, "as much time as you spend on that mustang site, you better get a mustang"

 

Yeah, I was just joking.

But honestly, the concept car is HUGE. it's at least 20% larger than the GT, and that extra size is bound to add weight.

I'm not worried, by the time that is released, there should be a BOSS or other SE available for competition.

I'm more interested in the new Camaro...I might have to switch camps if Chevy manages to do this one right

 

I don't think there will be a 400HP Mustang within a year, if that was the case we would have probably seen some test mules by now.

 

Are you talking about the 300C SRT-8? If so, it's definitely not faster than a stock Mustang GT. 0-60 times are roughly the same, actually.

Weight is the Challenger's enemy here. Dodge was claiming that the 4000 lbs Challenger with a 425 HP engine was gonna hit 60 in 4.5 seconds. WTF? There's no way. A stock Shelby GT500 with 500 HP only does it in an advertised 4.5 seconds.

At 425 HP, the Challenger claims are inflated, IMO. It's a big, heavy car ... though granted, it does have IRS, so that may help offset the portlyness in the turns. Still, to get production rolling sooner than later, it looks as though they're going to build it off the current (read: outgoing/outdated) 300 platform.

And with limited numbers, it will be $$ - unless, of course, it becomes a Cherypar product. Right now, there is NOTHING in the Chrysler lineup that I would even consider. Each new product they come out with (i.e. Nitro) just seems to get uglier and uglier. I honestly think Daimler will spin them off soon ... and that will be the end, unless they fully merge with Chery, which may be the plan. Of course, there's always the rumor that GM is going to buy Chrysler...

I think a poster over there summed it up best >>

Please explain to me the business case for this car? You're bleeding money $100k a day, and you decide to niche market a car that will be a success if it sells 30k units? Despite sharing components with the bloated 300 and Magnum, the tooling costs will surely not be recouped in the near future...

 

The squinty front end on the Camaro sucks... imo.

 

I don't like it from THAT angle either...but there are plenty of good angles that I DO like

 

I can see you're no fan of anything Chrysler, and I respect your opinion. However, keeping things on a fact based point of discussion, you are incorrect in a couple of assumptions.

1. The SRT8's are faster in the 1/4 than a stock GT. I won't getinto a ****ing match as to how much because that's subjective. Suffice to say, the GT will run comperable 0-60's as you pointed out, but the SRT8 owns the GT in the 1/4 and top speed.

2. Call them portly, call them bloated, but sadly, most cars today fit that description without the excuse of being full sized 4 door 5 passenger luxury equipped sedans. I need only to mention the Shelby GT500 to make that point.

3. That 4,000 lb plus weight has not prevented them from being exceptionally good handling cars. look at some of the road course, skidpad data, and braking perfromance, and you'll discover they are better than our GT's.

I've raced SRT8's with my now departed GTO and I'll tell you first hand they are an even match for an LS2 GTO with the driver being the spoiler.

I know how brand loyal some of us can be, and typically in those cases you'll never make a convert out of anyone. Believe me that's not my intent here. Bottom line though - when it comes to crunching the fact based data, it's hard to be criitical of a big luxury family car that can out perform our GT's in 1/4 mile acceleration, power to weight ratio, handling and braking, and do it with the wife & kids in the backseat with the Nav and heated seats on. Sure beats a minivan, and I'll tip my hat to the SRT8's anyday.

I never would have imagined there would be ultra low 13 second, Brembo braked, hot rod sedans. These are good days.

exgto out............

PS the 425 hp claims are not overrated. The typically dyno in the 360-370whp range on average. I'd hate to think the SRT8 guys give our GT's an equally bad a wrap!

 

GT500-500hp now in 09 I here it will be 550hp
Challenger-425hp possibly 500??? I'm betting GT500 for now

 

Agreed. And an aftermarket front fascia with the right look could be a big seller.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a fully optioned SRT8 goes for about $40,000+. Buy a nice $29,000 GT and perform $7,000 worth of performance and suspension modifications and you'll wiz all over the SRT8. Will it outperform GTs stock, yes. Is it a lot more money? Yes.

 

True, but these are apples and oranges brother. Very different cars with very different missions. I doubt the family guy needing a roomy car but wanting performance is also considering a GT.

The SRT8's are in a niche all their own, and when family guy's are dropping 50k plus for Escalades, and Denali's, and loaded expeditions, a 40k family hot rod starts to sound like a bargain.

 

I wonder which will be the first dealer to come with the "extremely rare and very limited" Vanishing Point Special Edition?