I'm venting here...am I the only one?
I feel this is more of a work related issue than your car. I have worked for many bosses.
If your boss is the only person at worked concern, then there is a good chance your boss is being an a-hole (and/or) an idiot. This happens in the work place alot. I seen bosses/supervisors pull this crap to make themselves look good and you look bad. In this case your idiot boss is making themselves look bad. I wish I had a solution for you but sometimes you got to take the bad to make a living.
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Suggestion, try planning adhead. Example, if you are good at sale then another boss in the company may like you or another company. Your current boss maybe waiting to screw you.
If your boss is the only person at worked concern, then there is a good chance your boss is being an a-hole (and/or) an idiot. This happens in the work place alot. I seen bosses/supervisors pull this crap to make themselves look good and you look bad. In this case your idiot boss is making themselves look bad. I wish I had a solution for you but sometimes you got to take the bad to make a living.
Edit:
Suggestion, try planning adhead. Example, if you are good at sale then another boss in the company may like you or another company. Your current boss maybe waiting to screw you.
Last edited by nascar_bobby; Mar 15, 2008 at 01:05 AM.
Good luck. I had a similar issue, but resolved it with HR. If you are supplying the car, how can they tell you what to drive? As long as you are able to do your job with the vehicle, what should it matter?
Just thought I would post to vent a bit. Twice now, my boss has given me a hard time about my ride. I do "outside sales" for the End User Market of my company (Low voltage system integration, such as Surveillance equipment, Fire Alarm, Intrusion, Pro Audio System, etc...) My customer base is all commercial, and covers a 100 mile radius of my town. He has stated that my car may be a detriment while working. It is required that I drive my personal car for work, and I am reimbursed mileage. First, let me state that I exceeded sales quota last year while driving it. He brought this new idea forward duing my review that it looked "like a show car" and that I should not add anything additional to the exterior. Yesterday, he said that it was too loud and that I needed to "watch it" when pulling out because it was too loud and would give negative aspect to customers...
I was never told that there would be "stipulations" to my personal vehicle other than it must have insurance and I would be responsibile for all maintanence issues. I suggested that if he felt that my personal vehicle would be "inapproprate" for work, that the Company provide me with a vehicle (not that I think this would happen, but seemed a solution).
I'm sure you all are with me on the aspect that my car is an important part of my life, and I enjoy every day I get behind with wheel. I do keep it clean and looking good but it is my hobby now and I dislike the idea that I do not have the option to add or do whatever I wish to my ride...
Ok...end vent. Thanks for listening...
I was never told that there would be "stipulations" to my personal vehicle other than it must have insurance and I would be responsibile for all maintanence issues. I suggested that if he felt that my personal vehicle would be "inapproprate" for work, that the Company provide me with a vehicle (not that I think this would happen, but seemed a solution).
I'm sure you all are with me on the aspect that my car is an important part of my life, and I enjoy every day I get behind with wheel. I do keep it clean and looking good but it is my hobby now and I dislike the idea that I do not have the option to add or do whatever I wish to my ride...
Ok...end vent. Thanks for listening...

There's a lot of tough talk on the internet. Take a good survey of the job market in your area before making any rash decisions or comments to your boss. Just acknowledge his thoughts and keep your sales up. Let your performance speak louder than your exhaust.
Disclaimer: Not directed towards anyone specific.
Disclaimer: Not directed towards anyone specific.
We've established he's an ahole. But unfortunately he's right. In outside sales, perception is reality. You should be driving something appropriate to the job. I'm speaking from personal experience.
But perhaps a bigger question is: why are you willing to ruin your fine ride in this way? Get some old beater for a few grand, and ruin that instead!
But perhaps a bigger question is: why are you willing to ruin your fine ride in this way? Get some old beater for a few grand, and ruin that instead!
Assuming your boss has no personal animosity to you, which he shouldn't unless there are other issues, its not about you or your car, its about the company and the perceived effect your car may have on both you and your company.
If there is a chance that your car may deter clients from purchasing whatever you sell or deter clients from becoming involved with you, then your car is not right for your job.
This is why I bought a tungsten and not a GO. I can't roll into my office everyday, much less other locations or to pick up or drive clients around, in a flashy orange muscle car. I love it, but it doesn't convey maturity which is what people want to see. They don't want to see your car (unless that's your product), they want to see or buy your product.
Think of it from the customer perspective. If you were your client and some salesman drives up to your place of business, potentially while you have customers there, in a tweaked out Civic with a giant wing, vinyl stickers up an down the side and a noisy a$$ coffee can muffler, how would you react? Probably the same way I react when little ***** going zipping by my house with fart cans and bass boxes blasting rattling their trunks... Would you want your clients seeing you doing business with the guy who everyone thinks is some hot rod punk or some schmo with a 79 firebird with a flaming chicken, traction bars, big a$$ tires and rusted quarters...
In business, its all about perception and very little about you.
If your car is part of your job, it is something to consider, like it or not.
Its the same reason there are very few professions you can roll into work with a big tattoo of a naked chick on your neck and not have it affect your job...
If there is a chance that your car may deter clients from purchasing whatever you sell or deter clients from becoming involved with you, then your car is not right for your job.
This is why I bought a tungsten and not a GO. I can't roll into my office everyday, much less other locations or to pick up or drive clients around, in a flashy orange muscle car. I love it, but it doesn't convey maturity which is what people want to see. They don't want to see your car (unless that's your product), they want to see or buy your product.
Think of it from the customer perspective. If you were your client and some salesman drives up to your place of business, potentially while you have customers there, in a tweaked out Civic with a giant wing, vinyl stickers up an down the side and a noisy a$$ coffee can muffler, how would you react? Probably the same way I react when little ***** going zipping by my house with fart cans and bass boxes blasting rattling their trunks... Would you want your clients seeing you doing business with the guy who everyone thinks is some hot rod punk or some schmo with a 79 firebird with a flaming chicken, traction bars, big a$$ tires and rusted quarters...
In business, its all about perception and very little about you.
If your car is part of your job, it is something to consider, like it or not.
Its the same reason there are very few professions you can roll into work with a big tattoo of a naked chick on your neck and not have it affect your job...
Last edited by futuresvt; Mar 15, 2008 at 11:13 PM.
Your car
This is a simple and complete contradiction to this whole fake personal individuality that is claimed in America. It's OK for some people of the right "persuasions" to legally be able to come to work dressed as a woman, if you are a man. That right is now protected in Europe and many states.
Amazing how if you happen to like some things in life that are not feminine, and don't harm any one elses life, how suddenly everyone has the right to have a problem with it, but yet wouldn't dare mention it if it were gender obscure or feminine, everything else being equal.
Your Mustang gets better milage than many cars and SUV's, it is beautifully designed, and kept in great condition, but yet since it isn't the "correct" type of "showy" car in a mixed gender sense, you are being called out for it.
There will be much more of this coming, so buckle up folks, Erik
Amazing how if you happen to like some things in life that are not feminine, and don't harm any one elses life, how suddenly everyone has the right to have a problem with it, but yet wouldn't dare mention it if it were gender obscure or feminine, everything else being equal.
Your Mustang gets better milage than many cars and SUV's, it is beautifully designed, and kept in great condition, but yet since it isn't the "correct" type of "showy" car in a mixed gender sense, you are being called out for it.
There will be much more of this coming, so buckle up folks, Erik
We've established he's an ahole. But unfortunately he's right. In outside sales, perception is reality. You should be driving something appropriate to the job. I'm speaking from personal experience.
But perhaps a bigger question is: why are you willing to ruin your fine ride in this way? Get some old beater for a few grand, and ruin that instead!
But perhaps a bigger question is: why are you willing to ruin your fine ride in this way? Get some old beater for a few grand, and ruin that instead!
I say add what you want, just keep it looking presentible. If you pay for your car and own it do what you want. If it starts to look too much like a race car or too flashy they might have a guideline somewhere on that. As far as too loud, that's all subjective unless he has an SPL meter, but he is the boss so just watch your own back.
I say he has no right to even say a word about what you drive. I use my car for work occasionally and have strict rules myself about what I will pickup (nothing dirtly,large, overly heavy, or items that will scratch anything).
What it comes down to that unless there are some terms in your employee contract that talks about your car I would tell him that he has to provide you with a vehicle if he has a problem with what you drive.
If you wanted to drive a ferrari for work and pay for it that is your business (although for sales that might not be wise)
Truth be told, people do judge what you pull up in while making sales calls. You are always better off in an average looking car than a flashy new toy. Instead of people saying "gee he must be successful and good at his craft because he can afford that" They say "gee, he must be overcharging"
What it comes down to that unless there are some terms in your employee contract that talks about your car I would tell him that he has to provide you with a vehicle if he has a problem with what you drive.
If you wanted to drive a ferrari for work and pay for it that is your business (although for sales that might not be wise)
Truth be told, people do judge what you pull up in while making sales calls. You are always better off in an average looking car than a flashy new toy. Instead of people saying "gee he must be successful and good at his craft because he can afford that" They say "gee, he must be overcharging"
Ain't that the truth. People think that they're anonymous on the internet... quite the opposite actually. Then they cry foul when someone digs up something about their life that they posted in public. 
Also not directed at anybody in particular

Also not directed at anybody in particular
We've established he's an ahole. But unfortunately he's right. In outside sales, perception is reality. You should be driving something appropriate to the job. I'm speaking from personal experience.
But perhaps a bigger question is: why are you willing to ruin your fine ride in this way? Get some old beater for a few grand, and ruin that instead!
But perhaps a bigger question is: why are you willing to ruin your fine ride in this way? Get some old beater for a few grand, and ruin that instead!
Sales is about image and being seen and it shows being top in your sales .The mustang is a great convesation starter and should only help out . Tell your boss from one lime green owner to another that the best thing he could do for sales is get "ALL" the sales staff into mustangs
Is there not a thing called a constitution etc freedom of speach and so on ? Your boss has a Vett doesn't he/she , There must be something in legal wrting that they cannot tell you what and hoe your car looks , I should think that as long as it is safe and pass's all legal safteys that your good , so if they want you to drive a lexus well they should get you and pay for a lease vehicle. I'm with you on rippin the JK
Is there not a thing called a constitution etc freedom of speach and so on ? Your boss has a Vett doesn't he/she , There must be something in legal wrting that they cannot tell you what and hoe your car looks , I should think that as long as it is safe and pass's all legal safteys that your good , so if they want you to drive a lexus well they should get you and pay for a lease vehicle. I'm with you on rippin the JK
Take a freakin' government class so you know what freedom of speech is and what it pertains to. I'm not sure what the laws are in the state the poster is from, but many states have something called Employment At-Will. You might want to check into that one too.
Actually, he drives a Pontiac SUV that he just got. He sold his Jap mini SUV and is moving up in the world...For the "take the Boss for a ride..." I have done that too. He and I have made two trips for business to STL in it.
It just seems that ever chance he gets...





