pitpup

Every who hangs here knows that Shinoda owns the 'BOSS' name. But how did they get to own it? Did they do the original Bosses in the late 60s early 70s? If not, did they purchase the Boss name from Ford? What's up with that?

Because the Mach 1 has been done, I'd like to see the first SE from Ford be a Boss, but reading the threads, it does not sound like this can happen.

If all else fails... I say Ford uses the name HOSS... as in 'HOSS 281'? (High Output Standard Shift... NO automatics allowed, hehe)

And of course it would be available in Grabber Orange (spelled Valencia)... just my .02 cents.

TMSBrad

Larry Shinoda, the creator of the original Bossse (as well as Mach 1s and Camaro Z28s) founded Team Shinoda in the early to mid-1990s.

BillP

Don't forget the 1963 Corvette Stingray!

Shelby Roadster

I think this is complete misinformation. Ford still has the rights to use the Boss name, and Team Shinoda uses the "Boss Shinoda" name.

If ford wants to put out another "Boss" there is no legal ramifications.

Avalanche

I thought Bruce Springsteen had the rights to the Boss name...

mr-mstng

Agreed.

Wolfie351

I'm no lawyer, but the way I understand trademark law is that you must re-new every 10 years and you also MUST have an "intent to use" that trademark. Since Ford has not sold a Boss in 30 years, I would say they no longer have rights to it. Notice how Ford brought out a Mustang Cobra every 10 years

Shelby Roadster

Here's your proof ford can use the boss name, from the UP Patent Office:

Word Mark BOSS
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: automobiles, trucks, vans, sport-utility vehicles, structural parts for land vehicles and engines for land vehicles
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 78383415
Filing Date March 12, 2004
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) FORD MOTOR COMPANY CORPORATION DELAWARE THE AMERICAN ROAD DEARBORN MICHIGAN 48121
Attorney of Record ELIZABETH JANDA
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

and

Word Mark BOSS
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: Motor vehicles, namely, automobiles, trucks, vans, sport-utility vehicles, and their structural parts and engines
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 78089130
Filing Date October 18, 2001
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition November 5, 2002
Owner (APPLICANT) Ford Motor Company CORPORATION DELAWARE 1 The American Road Dearborn MICHIGAN 48121
Attorney of Record Donald B. Aiken
Prior Registrations 1996397;2033246;2039714;2249931;AND OTHERS
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Both are live and Ford can use the Boss name. Are we on the same page?

Please end the speculation.

gotmy05

I heard the same thing happen with the GT-40 name

Shelby Roadster

Here's the Shinoda Piece:

BOSS SHINODA
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: Automotive detailing kit, consisting of spoilers and detailing graphics. FIRST USE: 19941200. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19941200
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 75438206
Filing Date February 23, 1998
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition June 24, 2003
Owner (APPLICANT) Shinoda, Karen D. INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 500 East 85th Street, Apt. 17d New York NEW YORK 100287406
Attorney of Record ALLEN M KRASS
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

jsaylor

A name can remain dormant for a long time and a company still own the rights. A good example is the Cyclone name and Mercury. Anyone here ever wonder why GMC had to spell the name of their turbo S15 the wrong way...Syclone.... instead of Cyclone? Yep, that's right...cause Mercury still owned Cyclone even if it hadn't been on a car in twenty years.

scottie1113

True, which is why we have the Ford GT and not the GT-40.

Lalo

Don't forget the 1963 Corvette Stingray! [/b][/quote]
Shinoda is the greatest IMO. these 4 cars are on my top 5 list.

Wombert

True, which is why we have the Ford GT and not the GT-40. [/b][/quote]
The "new" GT isn't called GT40 because the GT40 had an overall height of exactly 40 inches. The GT is longer, wider and taller and thus doesn't wear the name "GT40" but just "GT".

Dan

j, I haven't seen you post in a while! What's up?

jsaylor

Hey Dan, good to "see" you..in a manner of speaking. Not much new here. Nice to be back on the forums though.

Shelby Roadster

The "new" GT isn't called GT40 because the GT40 had an overall height of exactly 40 inches. The GT is longer, wider and taller and thus doesn't wear the name "GT40" but just "GT". [/b][/quote]
In the case of the Ford GT, another company owned the naming rights, and ford wasn't willing to pay the millions these people were asking for the rights.

Boomer

Yeah, they tried to stick Ford with a dollar ammount that was just too obscene and ford basically told them 'uh, no...thank you bubbye'

People will probably start calling it the GT44 nickname anyway.
From what I remember the original GT40 was also called the FORD GT but gained the name from the height (as we all know)

Sharp

Shelby Roadster is right about that. They were even offered a Ford GT as partial payment and they didn't take the offer.

Sharp

Shelby Roadster, the info from the patent office is great news. I was hoping to see the BOSS name used again by Ford. Did you look that up on their web sight?