2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Excuse me if these seem like a bunch of stupid questions but it is really important that i know, so that i will know if my dealer is trying to pull one over on me, would someone please just inform me if it is add 4% to invoice or subtract 4% PLEASE!

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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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A Plan is 2% below Invoice.
X Plan is 2% above Invoice.

Its in the FAQ in the 2005 area...
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by GhostTX@October 21, 2004, 1:31 PM
A Plan is 2% below Invoice.
X Plan is 2% above Invoice.

Its in the FAQ in the 2005 area...
I keep seeing this come up, it is not correct. I have an invoice sitting in front of me and MSRP is $26,510, invoice total is $24,525.55, a/z/d-plan is $23,468.55 and x-plan is $24,557.29. As you can see x-plan is NOT 2% over invoice + $150. The numbers are within $32 of each other.

With the $500 AQHA rebate, just find a car that can be bought at $500 over invoice or less, get your $500 from AQHA and your as good if not better than x-plan.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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There are two types of x-plan available. More accurately, there are two ways to receive an x-plan PIN. The selling price is exactly the same so it doesn't matter how you become eligible.

There is x-plan partners, which is available to employees and their spouse of companies listed as either vendors or suppliers of Ford.

There is x-plan friends and family, which is available to either friends or non immediate family members of Ford employees or retirees. These employees may give out up to 4 pin's per year.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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thank you! thank you very much! heres the bananas i promised!
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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So really people I could actually get a part time job at mcdonalds flipping burgers just long enough to get a pay stub and then qualify for x-plan please help I'm in between a rock and a hard place on this issue.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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Man do these threads EVER end, I'm pulling a Grantsdale and saying CHECK THE FAQ :shock:
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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I am so sorry Kevin that is NOT in the faq but it does seem to bother me that you can reply to my message with such a distraught attitude, when all you had to say was yes or no. that simple I appreciate you help, and still I do not know the answer to my question. I guess I will go read the faq and look for something that is not there.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Yes McD's has xplan, but usually any employer requires you going through your 90 day probation period before quallifying for any perks.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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thank you, sorry to go off like that but I see post like that all the time, read faq. it just bothers me because I can understand the frustration with answering the question over and over. but make sure it is in the faq before you jump over someone too harsh. not me I had no problem with you telling me to read it, thats why I did before I added to the post.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by TomServo92+October 17, 2004, 12:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TomServo92 @ October 17, 2004, 12:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Karpro@October 17, 2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by HorsC@October 17, 2004, 10:09 AM
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@October 17, 2004, 10:01 AM
2% over the dealer invoice.

so this would mean over invoice? like if my car at invoice was 22,588(just a number) x-plan would make it 2% more than that?

Not quite sure where this 2% over invoice keeps coming from but there are plenty of threads and the FAQ area that address x-plan pricing. From the majority of Mustang invoices I've looked at so far the x-plan is + or - about $50 of the "total factory invoice" including the fdaf and gas assessments.
X-plan is A-plan price + 4% + $150 for Ford/Mercury or + $250 for Lincoln:



I'm not sure how they calculate A-plan. Perhaps someone else can help with that. [/b][/quote]
For those with a price quote who want to know HOW the Aplan price is computed:

You can calculate A plan price straight off the 2005 Mustang Price List, that was posted here (or a link to it) a while back.

If you have the list for Price Level Code 515, for example, the Aplan price is the Dealer Price column on the left (not the Dealer Invoice w/Holdback column in the middle, that is the basis of the Xplan price line by line option by option, but then they do some stuff inside the "black box").

If you add up the prices from the Dealer Price column for the basic car plus options, then add in the $625 D&D and $75 for FDAF plus the gasoline charge (like $20.46) from the "dlr inv" column of your price quote, you should get the Aplan price to the penny.

Once that's known, you can compute the Xplan price at Aplan * 1.04 + $150. That should tie to the penny also.

Conversely, if you have an Xplan price on your car, you can calculate the Aplan price by subtracting $150 then dividing the result by 1.04; that will give you the Aplan price to the penny. When you get your Aplan price quote from the dealer, you'll be able to verify its accuracy or otherwise satisfy yourself.

Someone previously wrote that Xplan runs about .925 of MSRP. That is an accurate estimate for discussion purposes. Xplan is usually within $30-$50 of the Dealer Invoice (with holdback) total.

The Price Level Code listing is a good source of info as to the Aplan (Dealer Price column) or Xplan (Dealer Invocie w/Holdback) cost to you of the basic car or line item options.

Hope this isn't too confusing. It's easy if you have the paperwork in front of you.
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