2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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This is why you can't lock the gas pump trigger at gas stations in canada...

http://wm.gannett/Gas pump fires.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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hmmm
The mechanics involved in this problem is a buildup of vapor pressure that the nozzle can detect. The solution is either to insert the nozzle in further or pull it out a bit. This may allow a more direct flow of the gasoline and less vapor pressure. Upside-down or not, the only thing that matters is how far the nozzle is in the tank. I have never had this problem, nor had I heard of it.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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Well time for my 2 cents. As most of you already know I live in Canada. I now have close to 2500 miles on my car. I have never, ever had a problem putting gas in my car until I went to the states last week. I had to make 2 stops at gas stations and both of them did the same thing. I could barely fill the tank with gas. It kept spurting out a bit so I would have to pump it real slow. I pulled it out a bit and it would still "spurt". So that being said, to summarize, no issues for me in Canada and nothing but issues in the states.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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This is issue is partly due to the saddle fuel tank design and variability in fuel pump nozzle designs. Do a search on the Nissan 350z or BMW 3 series fueling problems and you will see that they have the same issue. Some gas stations pump at very low flow rates. The head pressure is insufficient to get the fuel over the saddle thus causing intermitent spit back.

Turning the nozzle upside down just gets the shut off valve which is located at the bottom of the fuel nozzle (take a look at the little hole there the next time you pump) above the fuel level thus preventing the shut off.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Fueling IS a problem and Ford is aware of the problem. I take issue with people that think we are so stupid that we can't fill a tank. Some of the people instructing do not live in areas requireing vapor recovery nozzles or even own an 05 Mustang.
Fueling the GT is about the only thing I do not like about the car. Burning it is fun!!!
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Thanks Mongoose, I agree... I notice too that being a woman I get even more of the attitude that I have no clue.

For those telling me that all I have to do is pull out the nozzle a bit... WRONG. Out of the 3 times I have filled the tank, I have had trouble twice. Different stations, pulling the nozzle out, pushing it in, whatever.

Today, was the worst. I had the nozzle upside down, and it STILL did it, just not as bad, until I got to the last gallon or so. Then it was a real chore. Even then, when I got in, I didnt have a full tank. With gas prices the way they are, and the way this V8 burns gas, I hope they fix this soon, because now its getting annoying. I drive a lot, and its bad enough having to fill up every other day.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Is it just me or does anyone else think you could just change the topic and this entire thread would become X-Rated.

"The solution is either to insert the nozzle in further or pull it out ... This may allow..more direct flow ...and less ...pressure. Upside-down or not....I have never had this problem..."

"Today... upside down, and it STILL did it, just not as bad, until I got to the last gallon or so. Then it was a real chore. Even then, when I got in, .....the way this burns ... I hope they fix this soon, because now its getting annoying. ....its bad enough .....every other day."
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by SixtySix@December 12, 2004, 1:26 AM
You mean to tell me nobody else has had this problem in other cars before?

I certainly have, in just about every vehicle I've owned at one time or another.
Ditto... I think this problem is more pump related... certin pumps seem to be more problematic(sp?) than other

Now if I could only figure out how to get my gas cap & tether to say on the fuel door... :scratch:
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Never fails Adrenalin, LSHICB!!! Everytime....

As I was writing it, I knew someone was going to go there, but, there is no other way to describe it. LOL!!!
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by JessicaRabbitt@December 12, 2004, 4:37 PM
Never fails Adrenalin, LSHICB!!! Everytime....

As I was writing it, I knew someone was going to go there, but, there is no other way to describe it. LOL!!!
You just make it sooooo easy.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by Peter1966@December 12, 2004, 5:41 AM
Jessica, thank you for your post . We in Germany have the same problem. All Aral gas stations work without problems but at Agip stations is no way to fill the car.
Weird Peter, ARAL gives me trouble, but most Esso stations are fine!??? I had to use the upside-down nozzle trick tonight, and no, this has never happened this severely with any other car. When the weather gets cold, this could be quite a PITA.

Jessica, at least you are in sunny So Cal...

B) <--- Making sacrifices to drive a cool car. <not that big>
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by RaGsHoCkEy88@December 11, 2004, 10:56 PM
here in stupid nj its gonna take the gas attendent 20 minutes to figure mine out even tho im gonna tell him lemme do it myself
LMFAO, Smell that clean New Jersey Air when you are waiting, LOL, What clean New Jersey Air? LMFAO
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by adrenalin@December 12, 2004, 4:26 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think you could just change the topic and this entire thread would become X-Rated.

"The solution is either to insert the nozzle in further or pull it out ... This may allow..more direct flow ...and less ...pressure. Upside-down or not....I have never had this problem..."

"Today... upside down, and it STILL did it, just not as bad, until I got to the last gallon or so. Then it was a real chore. Even then, when I got in, .....the way this burns ... I hope they fix this soon, because now its getting annoying. ....its bad enough .....every other day."


http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?ac...ndpost&p=178837

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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ah, didn't see that one...oh well mine was better
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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I actually popped $10 worth in her today without incident. Last time I was there, I thought I'd shoot myself trying to get it in there. There actually seems to be a difference by actual nozzle. I always use the same station, but yet nozzle by nozzle, there seems to be different characteristics. I've spotted 2 pumps now where no problems occur. I'll be using those specfic locations now.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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Adrenalin, did you say I was easy??? I resemble that remark young man...

I may be in Sunny SoCal, but the temps are getting into the mid to high 30s around here... in fact, it was chaos yesterday because for the first time in about 5 weeks it didnt RAIN all weekend. Living at the beach everyone comes out of thier cocoons when that happens.

Static is REALLY bad here, and I always have a problem with it. Even during the summer. Because of that, I got into the habit as a kid of touching the door of the car as I get out. In fact, I will touch any metal near me whenever I get a chance, otherwise I have been known to short out printers at work, or cell phones, or other electrical devices I get to before grounding. My mom told me about the gas fires when I first started driving.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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FWIW, out of 50+ vehicles I've owned, I've only had this issue a handful of times. Never had the problem with any of my Stangs though.

I understand that it is not a major issue, like the drivetrain noises are, but it is still annoying. I have only filled up an 05 GT ONCE, and yet I still had that problem, or, rather, my ride-along salesman did. So, for those that say it is the pumps, that may be some part of the problem, but there is some issue with the gas tank design, because I've filled up my Explorer many times at that same gas station and never had a problem.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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I have the same problem with my 05 GT.

You gotta pump real slow.

It's a design flaw that's for sure and Ford should fix it.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by JessicaRabbitt@December 12, 2004, 9:26 PM
Adrenalin, did you say I was easy??? I resemble that remark young man...

Wait...resemble or resent?

P.S. I am also proud of my red hair.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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BigRed, no typo there! LOL
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