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i would go with the 335i. 1500 could do some computer work, and possibly bigger turbos.
#42
So the reason i am asking about the Stang vs. the 335i is because i was faced with that exact choice and went with the stang. My last car was a 540i Sport 6-Speed, which was very quick. I've always wanted a Mustang, and have no regrets whatsoever. I love this car. For the next one, I'll look for a bit more performance and probably go to the BMW.
#43
I get the biggest kick from the "value equation" people. I guess it is cheaper to take a 300 lb. woman on date than one who can bend down and put her own shoes on. But so what? These are vehicle forums, not a economics debate.
Which vehicle performs better? It's a simple question.
#44
Well, with all due respect, that just your narrow view of the purpose of these forums but its not mine. I for one do want to discuss to economics of these cars, their color, their history, what people have done to them, likes, dislikes, etc. Performance is only one aspect but in my mind, is not all encompassing to the reasons why I hang out here. Just MHO.
#45
everyone has their reasons, i have mine as well. i am trying very hard not to get into forum fights now though. i would rtather just read on.
i am in a very stringent minority though that is i am one that likes all kinds of stuff, not just mustangs/ and or american cars.
i am in a very stringent minority though that is i am one that likes all kinds of stuff, not just mustangs/ and or american cars.
#46
And anybody who reads these forums, and who is honest with themselves, has to admit a blatant fact: Honda is the one that raised the bar. If it were not for Honda and their accomplishments beginning in the mid-to-late 1970's, we all still have 12 month / 12,000 mile warranties. They produced a superior vehicle and forced everyone else to follow along. Like it or not, it's fact.
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And anybody who reads these forums, and who is honest with themselves, has to admit a blatant fact: Honda is the one that raised the bar. If it were not for Honda and their accomplishments beginning in the mid-to-late 1970's, we all still have 12 month / 12,000 mile warranties. They produced a superior vehicle and forced everyone else to follow along. Like it or not, it's fact.
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lol I dont care what the 335 and the S4 comes packing, the fact remains that in pure acceleration the mustang whomps on both and in that comparison those two are much closer to the less powered V6. As for twisties, if given the same skilled drivers Id say the stang still out does both, I took a Dinan M3 through some twisties and I was in the inside lane and had him by more than a car the entire way and I couldnt get on it as hard since I had the inside track and when coming out of turns I just took off on him, but then again I dont know if the driver was a complete noob or not; my point simply being that if the GT stang can out do or hang with an M3 it would easily take the 335 and S4
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So the reason i am asking about the Stang vs. the 335i is because i was faced with that exact choice and went with the stang. My last car was a 540i Sport 6-Speed, which was very quick. I've always wanted a Mustang, and have no regrets whatsoever. I love this car. For the next one, I'll look for a bit more performance and probably go to the BMW.
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lol I dont care what the 335 and the S4 comes packing, the fact remains that in pure acceleration the mustang whomps on both and in that comparison those two are much closer to the less powered V6. As for twisties, if given the same skilled drivers Id say the stang still out does both, I took a Dinan M3 through some twisties and I was in the inside lane and had him by more than a car the entire way and I couldnt get on it as hard since I had the inside track and when coming out of turns I just took off on him, but then again I dont know if the driver was a complete noob or not; my point simply being that if the GT stang can out do or hang with an M3 it would easily take the 335 and S4
This new BMW engine has the torque to match its horsepower: 300hp and 300lb-ft.
But on the other hand, you really shouldn't be comparing a Mustang GT to the BMW 335 in the first place, since the price of the 335 they tested in the magazine was $44K. And we all know if you put a couple $K in the Mustang, then it will certainly whomp the B.
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The older 330Ci was indeed more a match for the V6 Mustang in terms of acceleration, but the new 335i is another story. Road & Track tested one in the Mar 2007 issue, and it did 0-60 in 5.0 sec, and the 1/4 mile in 13.5 @ 104.5 mph. That's about a dead heat with a GT, and blows away the V6 Mustang, as far as I know.
This new BMW engine has the torque to match its horsepower: 300hp and 300lb-ft.
This new BMW engine has the torque to match its horsepower: 300hp and 300lb-ft.
For comparison sake: A fully loaded '07 GT 5MT coupe here in Canada can be had for $38,393 (including NAV). That's almost a $30K difference! Now, I'll admit a fully optioned 335i will have a lot more technology in it than the Stang...but $30K worth? I don't think so.
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You're absolutely right about the NEW 335i with it's twin-turbo inline six. It will definitely challenge the Mustang GT. But here in Canada, by the time you fully option out a 335i, you're talking $67K...plus the additional luxury tax that's over and above regular applicable federal & provincial sales taxes.
For comparison sake: A fully loaded '07 GT 5MT coupe here in Canada can be had for $38,393 (including NAV). That's almost a $30K difference! Now, I'll admit a fully optioned 335i will have a lot more technology in it than the Stang...but $30K worth? I don't think so.
For comparison sake: A fully loaded '07 GT 5MT coupe here in Canada can be had for $38,393 (including NAV). That's almost a $30K difference! Now, I'll admit a fully optioned 335i will have a lot more technology in it than the Stang...but $30K worth? I don't think so.
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I really wish they would price Canadian cars closer to the US cars considering our dollar is so close now.
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Mustang GT's are slow heavy pigs untill you put a blower on them. i wouldn't even race a Toyota Echo with my Mustang until I got a blower on it.........The new Camaro and Challenger are going to be kicking Mustangs all over the roads..........sorry
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As numerous others have pointed out, the Mustang GT whomps up on ANYTHING within $10K of it's price. Stock. So what are you comparing it to when you say it's a "slow heavy pig?"
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Black Sunshine, please refrain from posting unless you actually have something constructive to add.
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Same thoughts here. I was thinking "troll" until I saw he has over 100 posts. And that Echo comment is just laughable. As far as the Camaro and Challenger, they aren't even made yet, and when they are, I guarantee that they will not be had for 26K.
Black Sunshine, please refrain from posting unless you actually have something constructive to add.
Black Sunshine, please refrain from posting unless you actually have something constructive to add.