Ford Mustang Fusion Key!
2/5/07, 08:03 AM
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2/5/07, 09:16 AM
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Well I can attest to the fact that the transponder is not directional. I have on several occasions wanted to leave my car running but was not inclined to leave the PATS key in the car. I have a standard key that I got cut at a hardware store. I simply set the PATS key against the other key and start the car. Works great. Then I lock it with the remote.
Someone could smash the window and drive off, but chances are they'll stall it (I have stick) and it won't restart.
Someone could smash the window and drive off, but chances are they'll stall it (I have stick) and it won't restart.
2/5/07, 09:51 AM
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Having said that, however, I have no doubt yours works. It all depends on receiving signal strength, transmission strength, key position, etc. I decided that unless I had a significant reason to change, that I would go with the same orientation as the PATS key.
2/5/07, 01:01 PM
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First test, however, would be to see if the keyless remote portion could be programmed to work.
Although, one could go back to the hot glue idea on the transponder chip …
2/6/07, 02:13 AM
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2/6/07, 06:34 AM
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Not wishing to start an argument, but my first attempt - not shown in my write-up - had the transponder 90 degrees from the position shown. I would work rarely, but mostly not. I was stumped. Then I tested my orientation theory. When rotated to align the same as the PATS key, it consistently worked - when I rotated it 90 degrees, as I had first constructed it - it consistently failed.
Having said that, however, I have no doubt yours works. It all depends on receiving signal strength, transmission strength, key position, etc. I decided that unless I had a significant reason to change, that I would go with the same orientation as the PATS key.
Having said that, however, I have no doubt yours works. It all depends on receiving signal strength, transmission strength, key position, etc. I decided that unless I had a significant reason to change, that I would go with the same orientation as the PATS key.
My guess is that the chip is much closer to the steering column when I do this than is possible with your setup. (signal/transmission strenght as you mentioned.)
2/6/07, 08:20 AM
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Interesting. I have started the car with the key both 90 degrees and 180 degrees to its normal position (and various angles in between). I have, once or twice, had trouble with it recognizing the PATS, but the majority of the time it works just fine.
My guess is that the chip is much closer to the steering column when I do this than is possible with your setup. (signal/transmission strenght as you mentioned.)
My guess is that the chip is much closer to the steering column when I do this than is possible with your setup. (signal/transmission strenght as you mentioned.)
2/6/07, 04:53 PM
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I agree however your example only happens a couple months out of the year so I would gladly give up the seperate fob for an all in one device! Even here in Chicago!
2/6/07, 05:22 PM
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2/7/07, 07:02 AM
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Very good question. I’d like to see documentation of an actual system that uses this technique. Are they tapping into the RF path of the existing PATS system, or “talking” to the remote PATS key and re-transmitting the codes via another antenna wire? Interesting.
I don't know whether the box was energized in any way. I would assume a similar device is used on the Mustang.
2/7/07, 08:58 AM
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I took one of my old 2000 Mustang fobs and reprogrammed it for the 2006. I have it stored in my desk at work and use it to open the doors when I’m at work. The second fob included with the 2006 works a home. You can never have too many fobs.
I’m also real glad that with the ’05 and above, the keyless remote DOES unlock the car while running. With my 2000, once running, the keyless remote would not open the doors anyway. I got almost stuck at work when the physical lock cylinder got frozen and world not turn with my spare key - and my spare fob was useless. I had to heat the key with the exhaust gas several times to unfreeze the lock cylinder. Much nicer to have a fob work while the car is running and locked.
2/7/07, 02:46 PM
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Well I can attest to the fact that the transponder is not directional. I have on several occasions wanted to leave my car running but was not inclined to leave the PATS key in the car. I have a standard key that I got cut at a hardware store. I simply set the PATS key against the other key and start the car. Works great. Then I lock it with the remote.
Someone could smash the window and drive off, but chances are they'll stall it (I have stick) and it won't restart.
Someone could smash the window and drive off, but chances are they'll stall it (I have stick) and it won't restart.
If you use another key to lock it, the car will not unlock itself when running.