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Old 2/22/07 | 05:52 PM
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Wait for the PIAA series 40 driving lamps. PIAA is supposed to come out with a Mustang GT specific kit. These use 55W H3 bulbs and probably have glass lenses.
Old 2/22/07 | 06:22 PM
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http://www.cardomain.com/item/PIA4064

Just did a search and found the PIAA GT lights here!
Old 2/22/07 | 08:42 PM
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Mine were hazy the day the car was delivered.
Old 2/22/07 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitz
http://www.cardomain.com/item/PIA4064

Just did a search and found the PIAA GT lights here!
You may have found my next mod.
Old 2/22/07 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by karman
You may have found my next mod.
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Old 2/23/07 | 05:19 AM
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The H3 bulb (used in the PIAA driving lamps) has a rated lifespan of 35-550 hours (130W / 55W respectively) while the H10 bulb has a rated lifespan of 1000 hours. Keep in mind these are lab lifespans (no vibration, etc...) The H3 has 103-250 candle power (again, 55W / 130W respectively) while the H10 is only rated at 65 candlepower.

The H1 has an even shorter lifespan at 300 hours.
Old 2/23/07 | 09:19 AM
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hazed or not mine are still plenty bright, considering I still flashed for "high beams" all the time
Old 2/23/07 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dustindu4
hazed or not mine are still plenty bright, considering I still flashed for "high beams" all the time

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I too often get flashed when using the fogs......especially by Porsches! Maybe because they sit lower the light seems brighter...I am running Silver Stars. Any idea how the PIAA's compare??
Old 2/23/07 | 10:23 AM
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If you look at the beam pattern for the fog lamps, you will see that quite a bit of light encircles the lamps about 4 feet above the hood at close range. So at 60 feet, there's a LOT of light being thrown upwards towards pickup truck drivers
Old 3/5/07 | 06:50 AM
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Well, if you use your fog lamps all the time...I would think that the overheating is causing them to haze...the fog lamps were not designed to be on all the time...only when you need them...hence the term "fog" and not "driving lamps"...besides it's probably a PITA to change them...so use them sparingly....

Exactly! I see guys using them all the time just because I guess they think it looks cool. The fogs on my '05 still look good because I use them only when they will make a difference, not how it looks to others who see me coming.
Old 3/5/07 | 09:09 PM
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hazed or not mine are still plenty bright, considering I still flashed for "high beams" all the time
I did also, but since I got the Center Mounted foglight grill...no flashing..
Old 3/5/07 | 11:12 PM
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I hate the haze they generate, is it because they arent totally sealed?
Old 3/6/07 | 06:23 AM
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I think it is the reflector material or the plastic lens material gassing off due to the heat generated from using the lamps. However, people have noted that the foglamps are hazy right from the get-go. I bought a 40mil protective film for the lamps and I can tell the foglamps get significantly hotter than the headlamps.
Old 3/6/07 | 04:43 PM
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Anyone install the PIAA fog lighs yet?
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I hate the haze they generate, is it because they arent totally sealed?
No... it's because they are used when many times they don't need to be.

It's a small price to pay in exchange for the needed attention.


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Well my Foglamps have only been used once and they are hazed so use has nothing to do with it.

I am however very interested in the PIAA setup. Be nice to have some more info on them and how they install. They market them as a replacement but then say they include a mounting bracket and relay. So i am curious to know how they mount and hookup. Obviously you will have to run a power supply wire to the battery but i would guess you could use the stock wire as the trigger signal for the relay.

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Old 3/6/07 | 07:21 PM
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Please notice that the PIAA 4064 light that was listed is a driving lamp and not a fog lamp. It only has a 30 degree beam spread whereas fog lamps have a beam spread of greater than 90 degrees. Replacing a fog lamp with a driving lamp will be useless in foggy conditions. The fog lamp has a lens that cuts off the beam at a certain height just like your low beams, this reduces reflected glare back towards you. A driving lamp with a 30 degree cone is just that, a complete cone with no vertical cutoff, and since they are rated at a higher wattage they will reflect a lot of light back at you. If you use it to replace your fog lamp and then hook it up to existing wiring then it will only work with your low beams as that is how the fog lamps are wired. Unfortunately driving lamps are designed to compliment high beams and not low beams.

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Old 3/6/07 | 07:25 PM
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Driving lamps make great payback for the SUVs/pickups that have glaring headlamps (HIDs and high mounted halogens).
Old 3/6/07 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GT4RAD
Well my Foglamps have only been used once and they are hazed so use has nothing to do with it.

I am however very interested in the PIAA setup. Be nice to have some more info on them and how they install. They market them as a replacement but then say they include a mounting bracket and relay. So i am curious to know how they mount and hookup. Obviously you will have to run a power supply wire to the battery but i would guess you could use the stock wire as the trigger signal for the relay.

Richard
Just thinking.
Okay,Lets say I never need foglights (I don't) or I can install additional ones.
If I use the PIAA set-up and original wire signals to their relay, can I just switch the headlamp wires so the high beams come on with the dash switch?
Wouldn't the low beams come on with the stalk switch?
Wouldn't the fogs (driving lights) come on with highs only?
Would the smart junction box still be happy?


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