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Fog light lens haze

Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Fog light lens haze

I think this has been discussed, but can't find any info. The chrome plated lens on my fog lights have developed a haze (hard to see in bright sunlight) but very obvious at night. Replaced once by dealer, back again for a second replacement this coming Saturday. It looks like a mirror that hasn't been cleaned for a long time. Takes 2-3 months to develop to where it is obvious. Headlights are OK. I'm running Silverstars...did it pre and post Silverstars. Water is not the problem.

The really odd part is that the haze "pattern" forms three "triangles" seperated by 3 "bars" that are bright chrome....sort of a "peace sign" pattern. Haven't looked yet but I'm betting that the back side plastic molding is thicker where the front side chrome "bars" are not exhibiting the problem. If so it might be heat related..??

I'm guessing many of us do not look @ the fogs when they are lit....please take a look and see if this is happening to yours....maybe this is a new problem for '07??
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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This problem happened on my '05 as well.

Essentially whoever the supplier is put a cheap material for the reflector that is wearing out prematurely.

Hoepfully by replacing the fogs often enough an updated durable part will hit the market.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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I have not heard very much about this prior to your post, I had mini fogs on my V6 Pony Pkg and my head lights never showed any sign of wear.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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same here. had them replaced once already
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Is there any all-honeycomb grille for GT's? I plan to dump the fogs altogether.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Same issue here with my '07. Mine had the film on the reflector from the day it was built. If you take a look at the fogs, there is a vent hole in back of the reflector. Not the case with the headlights.

The triangle pattern you see is because of the 3 prongs that are holding the bulb shield in place (see attached pic). No light is reaching those 3 parts of the reflector, hence the dark pattern and why you see no bright film like you do on the rest of the reflector. The bulb shield is blocking the light there.

Since there were others that posted that they had the same problem, even with replacement fog light assemblies, I'm not replacing mine and risking the dealer scratching the bumper, etc. I'll live with it, but I am ticked that the fogs are so chinsy.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Time for HIDs?
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Steevr--thanks for the explanation on the "triangle" pattern...it had me stumped. I'll take a look tonight so I get the visual on my car. Also, really appreciate the picture. You would think Ford would change the mfg on this, plug the hole (I wonder if that would help).....why is it there?? Maybe to release heat?? I'm going to contact Ford...I anticipate it will be a complete waste of time, but we'll see.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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This sort of thing happens from cheap plastic overexposed to heat..... plastic lens.... plastic housing....
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Have the same issue with mine
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Why aren't there any aftermarket vendors making parts that we actually NEED for the Mustang?

Like:

brake fluid caps that don't leak
driving lamps that don't fog
etc...
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
Why aren't there any aftermarket vendors making parts that we actually NEED for the Mustang?

Like:

brake fluid caps that don't leak
driving lamps that don't fog
etc...
There SHOULDN'T be any aftermarket vendors for these kind of parts. The OEM should've gotten it right so you can spend your money buying the parts you WANT for your Mustang instead.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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amen to that
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Mine are hazy too. But I would rather cut off my arm than bring it to a dealer. So I will end up replacing them eventually I guess out of my own pocket.


I am pretty sure PIAA makes a fog lamp kit for these cars that replaces the factory setup for $150. Not much detail provided though. And ford is really the one who should fix the thing.

http://www.piaa.com/Lamps/Lamps-VehicleSpecific.html

From one site.

PIAA is proud to introduce a new vehicle specific lamp kit for the 2005-2006 Ford Mustang GT (part no. 4064) that replaces the OEM fog lamps. This kit has great market potential due to the huge sales success of the new Mustang and the already “hot” aftermarket for the vehicle.

The vehicle specific kit comes with PIAA’s legendary, reliable and most bang-for-buck lamp the 40 Series driving lamp. This lamp with its huge reflector (6 inch) and high power bulb will blaze a trail of vision far ahead of the vehicle for a boost of confidence during high speed motoring on dark nights.

PIAA Corporation has been designing and manufacturing high quality halogen bulbs for nearly a half-century. Quality begins with the design. PIAA scientifically engineers bulbs to exacting specifications utilizing the latest in integrated computer aided technology. PIAA bulbs are 100% tested at each step in the manufacturing process. Absolutely nothing is left to chance.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Funny thing is I have delt with cars for enough years now that I couldn't think of place I would dare bring it other then a dealer...
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Funny thing is I have delt with cars for enough years now that I couldn't think of place I would dare bring it other then a dealer..
Oh, I don't doubt that is the lesser of the evils if you have to bring your car in.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Well, if you use your fog lamps all the time...I would think that the overheating is causing them to haze...the fog lamps were not designed to be on all the time...only when you need them...hence the term "fog" and not "driving lamps"...besides it's probably a PITA to change them...so use them sparingly....
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Living up to their name. fogged over lights
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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I've given up, the 3rd set (second replacement) are hazy out of the box from day one.......
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Im going to wait til the near end of warranty time, have them change them out. Not to bad over 16 months, but its there.
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